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Purrsnikitty · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 228 Location: Parrish, Florida

Jayhawk mom - will the low gluten hosts be safe for Brenna when she is old enough to receive?

Do you know if the low gluten hosts come in a larger size for the priest to bless - the one he holds up, and it has to be large enough for the people to see it?

The priest's host has become a problem for me - even though I am permitted a gluten free host (Episcopalian), and do take that, the larger priest's host still contains wheat and thus the chalice is contaminated when he breaks it. Since I serve as deacon at the Altar, it's a little awkward for me not to receive the chalice - the people are watching everything we do up there. We've tried having two chalices, but half the time he forgets and picks up the wrong one. So far, I've not experienced any reaction, but really won't know until my next blood work in November. If I could convince him to use a low-gluten or gluten free priest's host, that would solve the whole issue.
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jayhawkmom · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 851 Location: Midwest, USA

Purrsnikitty · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 228 Location: Parrish, Florida

Thanks, Jayhawk - I think you're right although I'm still inquiring - have an e-mail out to Ener-G Foods which does offer gluten free hosts in the regular size. The next step if they can't help is to find a recipe and make some. The Altar Guild keeps my gluten-free hosts in the freezer - these would keep the same way.

Happy birthday to Ian.
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lorka · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 220

I have this site bookmarked to make your own.

http://www.enabling.org/ia/celiac/communion.html#recipe

My family breaks bread on Christmas Eve, and I was going to make this this year (it was my first diagnosed Christmas), but instead, I made gingerbread men, and we did our tradition with those Smile

But anyway, those are tried and true.
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Purrsnikitty · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 228 Location: Parrish, Florida

Lorka - thank you SO much for that site. I have printed out the pages (all 12 of 'em) and will see this weekend if my priest will allow me to make the Presider's host - at least for the service I'm at.

If he says OK, I will be thrilled to get rid of the two chalice system - it hasn't worked very well anyway - and the rubrics for setting the Table in the Book of Common Prayer clearly state "only one chalice . . . and, if need be, a flagon of wine from which additional chalices may be filled after the Breaking of the Bread."

Thanks again.
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Purrsnikitty · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 228 Location: Parrish, Florida

Here's the reply I received from Ener-G Foods. They don't offer a Presider Host in gluten-free form, but suggested a recipe I might try. It sounds easy and good.

Hi Marcia, I'm sorry we only have one type of communion wafers at this time,
ours is about the size of a half-dollar.
Unfortunately I cannot give you the recipe, but I would suggest you do a
search online for a gluten free/wheat free recipes, I did a search myself
just now and this is what I found:
http://www.livingwithout.com/features/feature-wheatfreeworship.htmlPlease let us know if there is any other questions regarding our products.

Thank You,
Customer Service
Ener-G Foods, Inc.
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jayhawkmom · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 851 Location: Midwest, USA

I'm glad you guys are able to find some answers. =)

However, being as that I'm Catholic... and the "rules" must be followed regarding the wheat issue, making my own will simply not suffice.

lorka · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 220

i should read all the messages perhaps to understand, but may i ask what makes these rules so rigid? this is a reall question, i promise i am not instigating anything! i hope that is okay. i just don't understand.
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Fidissimus · Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 1455 Location: Portland, OR.

It's a small question with a BIG answer...

An opinion or belief authoritatively stated, a truth appertaining to faith or morals, revealed by God, transmitted by the Apostles in the Scriptures or tradition, and proposed by the Church as an article of faith, to be accepted by the faithful. In the sense that a dogma is an idea, it follows that dogmatism is necessary for religion, since a religion without ideas is meaningless. The dogmas of the Church, being the intellectual conception and verbal express of Divine truth, naturally take on the characteristic of truth, viz., unchangeableness or immutability. Mathematics has certain dogmas which are permanent and fixed because they are grounded in the very nature of reason itself, e.g., the principle that the whole is greater than any of its parts. The dogmas of the Church, on the other hand, are true because grounded on the authority of the Divine Reason who reveals them.
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ostrich · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 3960 Location: Nebraska

Short answer: because God and the church say so. Wink

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lorka · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 220

okay. thanks.
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jayhawkmom · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 851 Location: Midwest, USA

lorka · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 220

thank you, and i know how it goes already, as i was raised catholic. i am going to dismiss myself out of this conversation, out of respect for your views and my own. i just wanted to respond though, so you know that i am thankful and have acknowledged your responses.
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jayhawkmom · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 851 Location: Midwest, USA

Okey doke!! =) =)

Purrsnikitty · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 228 Location: Parrish, Florida

I wanted to share for those struggling with this. The Benedictine Sisters in Clyde, MO (Jenn posted in another thread - loads of wonderful information - thank you) DO offer a Presider's Host in low-gluten form - less than 10 ppm.

This altar bread is approved by the U.S. Catholic Conference and the people in charge of the rules of liturgy for the Roman Catholic Church - Jayhawk - did I say that right?

I brought the stack of information to my priest along with samples - he said "wonderful - we'll do this - order a 6 months supply." I can't tell you how relieved I am. My only known exposures to gluten are the crumbs in the chalice from the Presider's Host when he breaks it and the wheat wafers I handle for home Communion visits - and then I finish the small amount of wine in the chalice, which is probably not smart, Crying or Very sad

but the alternative is to pour it out on the ground which is awkward when you are visiting people in their homes.

The dear Benedictine Sisters have solved both problems for me as I will take the leftover pieces of the Host he breaks at the Altar for my home visits.
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