Raw vegetables and fruit

isto · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1103 Location: OHIO

I'm not sure I picked the right place to post this. All my life I have had difficulty eating any raw fruits, raw veggies, or raw nuts. I get HORRIBLE stomach pain. It has gotten progressively worse as I get older. If I even eat a piece of lettuce on a sandwich I get really bad stomach pain. My daughter, who is also CD, has a similar problem, but just w/ raw veggies. She will get symptoms very close to the ones she has when she has eaten gluten.

Just wondering if anyone else has similar things? Or any ideas? Antacid does nothing, neither does prescription acid reducer.

Danita
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Kathie · Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 696 Location: Florida

For the last year I have developed a problem with too many raw vegetables, I used to love salad but I don't seem to digest any of it now. Don't know why.
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gluten-free-mike · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 349 Location: Cleveland, OH

That is quite odd. If the foods were not fresh, and were sprayed with sulfites or the like, I'd suspect that (like on salad bars)... but, with truly fresh fruit and veggies, I have no idea, especially if it is *all* veggies across the board. Maybe it's just the fiber content.

Isto, do you experience the same pain if you were to pre-grind all the veggies into something like a V8 drink? Just wondered if having them ground up finely would relieve any of the symptoms.
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Fidissimus · Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 1455 Location: Portland, OR.

Mike do you mean juiced?
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Yasmine · Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Seattle WA

I can eat cooked fruits and veggies so MUCH better than I can the raw ones and I think it has to do with the enzymes in the fresh foods--some of them can cause serious digestion issues in people, especially if you already have food issues like CD or allergies.

Also, with the raw, if I make sure they're fully ripe and peeled, I do better. I am now on digestive enzymes (not papaya, but serious hardcore enzymes) and they've been helping me so much. Apparently, I don't digest my food right if I don't take them and I've noticed a big difference since I've been on them.

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ostrich · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 3960 Location: Nebraska

Cooking them also helps soften the peels or meat, which can contain alot of fiber.
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isto · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1103 Location: OHIO

GF Mike - I have juiced raw fruits and vegetables and still have the problem to a lesser degree.
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gluten-free-mike · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 349 Location: Cleveland, OH

cultureslayer · Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 712 Location: NC

It's enzymes. Denatured by cooking. Sounds very strange at first, but I have heard of other people with the same problem.
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isto · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1103 Location: OHIO

do you know what they did to help the problem, or did they just never eat anything raw?
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cultureslayer · Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 712 Location: NC

Just not eat anything raw. I think that fresh steamed veggies might be enough to denature the enzymes, but I'm not a biologist and some of them require different temperatures and/or pressure.
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isto · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1103 Location: OHIO

Thank you, Lauren! It's better to know I should just stop trying to eat them than to keep trying different things and feeling awful!

Danita
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jherara · Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 47

I have multiple allergies and sensitivities and a recent connection was made between food plants and other plant families.

For example: I'm allergic to ragweed. I also can't tolerate eating lettuce. My reactions to ragweed differ from my reactions to lettuce, YET, I react to both. My allergest suggested that this is b/c they come from the same plant family.

Maybe that would be another avenue to explore?

Good luck!
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isto · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1103 Location: OHIO

thanks!
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Yasmine · Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Seattle WA