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Amooliakin
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 Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: Antibiotic Meds |
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Oh Dear... this is when I hate this the most.... I'm all in a tizzy because we are going on vacation TOMORROW and my daughter came down with strep. So the doc prescribed chewable Amoxicillin tablets and I filled the prescription and gave her one pill without even THINKING about gluten! I guess I was so concerned that she get her medicine... anyway now I call the company and can't get through and I'm beside myself....
The company is Ranbaxy... do any of you subscribe to Clan Thompson? I'd tempted to sign up with them right now just to get the answer...
Oh my... Oh dear....
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Amooliakin
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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YIPPEEEEEEE !!!!
Problem Solved!
I reached them and was told the product is
GLUTEN FREE !!!!!!
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Eeyorific
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Antibiotic Meds |
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| Amooliakin wrote: | | So the doc prescribed chewable Amoxicillin tablets |
FWIW (if you don't already know) Amoxicillin is notorious for causing the big "D". If you have a pro-biotic, I would get some in her right away. That's one thing you don't want to "run" (pardon the pun) into on vacation!
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Amooliakin
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Antibiotic Meds |
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| Eeyorific wrote: | | If you have a pro-biotic, I would get some in her right away. |
Uh... what's a pro-biotic? 
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nancw
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Would yogurt with lots of active cultures be as beneficial as probiotics? Just curious.
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Fidissimus
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| Quote: | Probiotics are dietary supplements containing potentially beneficial bacteria or yeast, with lactic acid bacteria (LAB) as the most common microbes used. LAB have been used in the food industry for many years, because they are able to convert sugars (including lactose) and other carbohydrates into lactic acid. This not only provides the characteristic sour taste of fermented dairy foods such as yogurt, but acts as a preservative, by lowering the pH and creating fewer opportunities for spoilage organisms to grow.
Probiotic bacterial cultures are intended to assist the body's naturally occurring gut flora to reestablish themselves. They are sometimes recommended by doctors, and, more frequently, by nutritionists, after a course of antibiotics, or as part of the treatment for gut related candidiasis. Claims are made that probiotics strengthen the immune system.
~wikipedia |
I think Probiotics are more concentrated than yogurt. You could defiantly eat yogurt and that would help, but the PB would be more potent.
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Eeyorific
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sorry for not being able to get on and answer your question last night.
Yes, yogurt does have live cultures and will help, but Jenn is right, a PB is much stronger.
The biggest thing to know about a pro-biotic, is you want it cold, They sell them on the shelf, but from everything I have been taught, in order to keep the live bacteria alive, it must be kept cold.
Also, FWIW, I would never start it after a course of AB, the damage is already being done, it's best to start right before, (as soon as you suspect the need for an AB) or as soon as possible.
A way to describe a pro-biotic to your daughter, is this... Anti-biotics can not differentiate between the bad (infection) bacteria and good bacteria., and by wiping out the good bacteria, they can cause other symtoms like the big "D" etc...
Pro-biotics are made up of only good bacteria. By replenishing the supply of good bacteria, one is less likely to have the unwanted effects from the AB.
There are tons of good GF Pro-biotics, we use Klaire Labs Pro-Biotic complex which is dairy, corn, and gluten free. With the kids, I empty the capsule into juice, or applesauce or mashed banana. They offer a powder form too, but we have found the capsules to be more cost efficient.
HTH
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RD/LD
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| Eeyorific wrote: |
I empty the capsule into juice, or applesauce or mashed banana. They offer a powder form too, but we have found the capsules to be more cost efficient.
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Hi Eeyorific,
FYI, you lose effectiveness of the probiotic if you take it out of the capsule, it's the capsule that protects the probiotic through the stomach acid. But even if a small amount survive your kids will benefit so good for you for being proactive on the probiotic front.
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Eeyorific
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| RD/LD wrote: | Hi Eeyorific,
FYI, you lose effectiveness of the probiotic if you take it out of the capsule, it's the capsule that protects the probiotic through the stomach acid. But even if a small amount survive your kids will benefit so good for you for being proactive on the probiotic front. |
Hey RD/LD.. thanks so much for the info.. I had no idea. Would that mean then that the powder form wouldn't be as effective as the capsules? We're trying to teach ds how to swallow pills, but so far, no such luck. We think it's a texture thing due to his Aspergers, so we don't push it too much, but it's a goal we're reaching for.
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RD/LD
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| Eeyorific wrote: | | RD/LD wrote: | Hi Eeyorific,
FYI, you lose effectiveness of the probiotic if you take it out of the capsule, it's the capsule that protects the probiotic through the stomach acid. But even if a small amount survive your kids will benefit so good for you for being proactive on the probiotic front. |
Hey RD/LD.. thanks so much for the info.. I had no idea. Would that mean then that the powder form wouldn't be as effective as the capsules? We're trying to teach ds how to swallow pills, but so far, no such luck. We think it's a texture thing due to his Aspergers, so we don't push it too much, but it's a goal we're reaching for. |
I've seen some powdered forms that are micro encapsulated but really haven't looked into the research behind how effective they are as opposed to the full sized capsules. If it's micro encapsulated then chances are more of it is making it past your son's stomach.
Regarding research I'm always skeptical if the research is provided by the manufacturer (yes it's hard to believe but it could be biased-  ) And if you're feeding active cultures to your son in yogurt daily it all helps.
I'll see if I can find some good info for you. But here's an article you might be interested in from Today's Dietitian magazine:
http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/td_0505p44.shtml
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Eeyorific
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| RD/LD wrote: | | And if you're feeding active cultures to your son in yogurt daily it all helps. |
I wish my son could have yogurt. There was a soy cream with live cultures that we were giving him, but once corn started to become a problem, we were forced to discontinue that. He is GF/CF & corn free.
We will continue to work with him with the capsules.
BTW... thanks for the article.
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Rags
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Wow. And uh-oh!
I developed an ear infection last week and one of the scrips I got was for amoxycillin in capsule form. I'm still unused to asking whether meds are GF.
I've had no trouble with the amoxycillin, and I imagine I would have by now, since I'm taking three times a day.
I have to remember: In all things, I must ask upfront -- is it GF?
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GFPolarBear
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Speaking of which - I've switched a couple of my meds to dispense-as-written brand name drug because I know the 'real' stuff is GF where the generics might not be. Has anyone contacted their insurance company about this?
(Mine's charging me an arm and a leg for one of them ... so it may be enough to get me off my lazy bum and call the generic manufacturer.) |
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KeeKee
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They are really really expensive (if you get them direct through their site) but Natren makes a powder that can be mixed into things for kids.
The lady that heads that company states in a show I watch that if you find you have to take antibotics then you can use the probiotics but you need to wait 2 hrs after taking the anti before taking the pro or you are just wasting your money.
HTH.
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