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ilovechocolate



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Questions to ask your server, etc Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone's able to provide some useful questions we should be asking our server, hostess, chef, etc (and possibly also the reason behind those questions..).

I'm hitting up a couple bbqs this weekend for Labor Day and I'm wondering if chicken or a burger is thrown on the grill what should I be watching out for? I'm learning that bread crumbs can be bad (if wheat flour is used) and that certain sauces like teriyaki (but not sure why) is not good if it's used as a marinade.

Any help would be very much appreciated.
And happy (early) holiday weekend!! I'm so excited to be getting out of work early tomorrow Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about server as in "Bob standing next to the grill"? Or server as in "the waiter at a restaurant"? If it's the latter, I suggest skipping straight to the manager.

The former is more tricky. I get into the same situation at work sometimes. I'm sorry, but I generally just skip the whole thing. Sad Especially if it's a potluck. How on earth are you going to track down everybody and double (and triple) check there isn't any gluten? What if Aunt Elsie keeps insisting there's no flour in her dish, but she doesn't realize that cake flour = regular flour? Or some croutons accidentally fall into Uncle Bob's salad?

As far as grilling goes, I would make sure your dog/burger/chicken is cooked on a piece of tin foil. Then you don't have to worry about CC from the grill. To be safe I would 1) make sure there's no marinades on the meat and 2) skip all the dressings, except for stuff you know is safe (like ketchup).

Or, you could take the easier route and simply eat before going to the party. That way you can enjoy everybody's company without worrying about getting sick. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: (i changed my name....) Reply with quote

so yes I changed my name....formerly jenn here

I'm talking about both situations...restaurant and "Bob standing next to the grill". haha.
I thought about just eating before I go to a bbq or party but don't always want to be in that situation. Maybe if the food hasn't already been prepared I can make sure my chicken or fish or whatever gets cooked up plain. The tin foil idea is great. I know what you mean about work, I've already had to deal with a meeting where there were treats and I couldn't have any...it was all pastries! Better off anyway. But later today I'll be dealing with it again since we are celebrating some birthdays and are having cake. (That's primarily a no-no because of flour most likely being wheat right??)

Thanks for the tips Os Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ostrich has given you some good suggestions.

The thing about potlucks or parties is that you have to go in to it expecting that there will be nothing you can eat. Then ask lots of questions and be pleasantly surprised if there is something to nosh on. I bring a dish or two to share when I go to a party. That way I at least know I have something to eat. For the most part, people who do not have to follow the GF diet have no idea what you are talking about when you mention gluten. I have been told that a potluck dish must be safe for me because it is made with white bread. As though it is not made of wheat flour, instead it's made of some mystery food called "white". If there are any breadcrumbs used anywhere, they are always gluten containing. The only exception would be in a GF restaurant with GF bread. Having your meat grilled on foil is a great way to avoid CC. But you still have to ask what brand the hot dogs are or if the chicken was marinated or injected with something.

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I'll be dealing with it again since we are celebrating some birthdays and are having cake. (That's primarily a no-no because of flour most likely being wheat right??)


If you are going to a party with cake, unless it has been prepared to be GF, it has gluten in it. There are flourless cakes out there, but I haven't ever been offered one at a birthday party unless someone knew of my issues with gluten. Always assume cake has gluten in it unless specifically told otherwise.

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certain sauces like teriyaki (but not sure why) is not good if it's used as a marinade.


Teriyaki sauces are usually made with soy sauce. Soy sauce usually contains wheat. There are those that do not (La Choy, Wal Mart Great Value brand, San-J wheat Free Tamari), but most of them do. The vast majority of ready-made products that contain soy sauce contain wheat.

If you are new to the GF diet, eating food that has been prepared by others can be a minefield. I would really reccommend reading and learning as much as you can get your hands on before eating out or allowing others to prepare food for you. That includes restaurants, family or friends. No, not forever. But for a little while until you learn the things to look out for and the questions to ask. Not trying to be a buzzkill, but you can't heal if you are getting gluten in your system.

Be careful out there. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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we are celebrating some birthdays and are having cake. (That's primarily a no-no because of flour most likely being wheat right??)

Yes, be very careful. It doesn't have to say 'wheat flour' to have gluten in it. The 'normal' all purpose flours at the grocery stores are generally all made from wheat. Same way with breads... all normal breads have gluten in them even if it's 'white bread' and not 'wheat' bread. This is commonly confused by people or aren't familiar with the gluten-free diet. Unless you are told it is rice flour, potato flour, bean flour, etc... always assume it is made from wheat.
The diet does get easier with time, but is pretty overwhelming at the start.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruelshoes wrote:
I bring a dish or two to share when I go to a party. That way I at least know I have something to eat.


This is also a really great idea. Make sure it's something you can eat a bunch of too (bags of chips, salad, etc), because 99% of the time you won't be able to eat what everybody else brings. If it helps, I'm bringing some GF brownies to a party tomorrow.

BTW, there are ways to get around this, but it all depends on the amount of trust you have with the people bringing food. At the above party the hosts always let me look at the ingredients. If they're not sure about an ingredient they'll let me know.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks all so much!!! very helpful indeed.
That's a great idea to bring a dish. I actually plan on going to Barnes & Noble tomorrow to get a basic GF cookbook. Then I'll make something to bring to these bbqs.

cruelshoes--thanks for clearing up the issues with teriyaki and soy sauces. I knew to watch for them but now it helps to know why.

I'll also have to definitely check out Wal-Mart since now I've seen a few postings here how they have a GF section! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi and Welcome!

Wal-mart doesn't have a gluten free section, but they do label their Great Value brand for gluten. If it is GF, below the ingredient list will say "GLUTEN FREE". I wish more stores would do this!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bud7-10 wrote:
Hi and Welcome!

Wal-mart doesn't have a gluten free section, but they do label their Great Value brand for gluten. If it is GF, below the ingredient list will say "GLUTEN FREE". I wish more stores would do this!!

Also, Shop Rite is beginning to carry more and more GF items...and Whole Foods and Trader Joe's have always been great. Smile
It's lots of label-reading, but it gets easier and almost becomes second nature! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid Walmart STILL isn't labelling items as GF in Canada yet. Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ilovechocolate wrote:
thanks all so much!!! very helpful indeed.
That's a great idea to bring a dish. I actually plan on going to Barnes & Noble tomorrow to get a basic GF cookbook. Then I'll make something to bring to these bbqs.


A word of caution: when you bring your GF goodies to a party, separate some out for you and only you to hedge against cross contamination.
Someone might use a spoon from another dish in your dish, or someone who just picked up a burger on a bun reaches into your chip bag with the same hand.

Also, when you getting your GF cookbook, get some other books on GF living. You'll be glad you did. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should check out this article:
Gluten Free Dining Out: Is it safe?

It's geared toward dietitians (and was found by Al where it's also in the sticky links for Diagnostic & Technical Info) but is a good primer for any celiac interested in dining out.
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