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tobi
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 23
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:52 am Post subject: Anyone have Sjogren's in this forum? |
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Hi, I have been GF for over 2 years and doing quite well. Newly diagnosed with Sjogren's syndrome and just wondered if anyone else with Celiac had Sjogren's. I do need to find GF sugar free lemon drops to keep my mouth moist.
Always great to read and hear about CD from other people.
Jan |
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aklap

Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8607 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jan,
Sorry to hear about your new diagnosis (dx) - but glad to hear you've been doing well otherwise .
I do not have it...but it is not uncommon for Celiacs to have Sjogren's - due to the auto-immune connection. It is more common for women to have it than men.
I have posting small amounts of info on Sjogren's - maybe in the Diagnostic Forum? Or do a search on it which can be found above. _________________ Al
“We cannot all do great things, but we can do small things with great love.” Mother Teresa |
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PrtPaty
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 65 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:16 am Post subject: Sjogrens |
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Hi Jan,
It seems like there have been some posts on this site in the past of people who have Sjogrens. I have most of the symptoms and at one point mentioned it to my optometrist because I have had such dry eyes for several years. So, I guess I don't have it officially, but I had to quit wearing contacts several years ago-boo hoo, and I've had punctum plugs in my eyes for about 5 years now. Going on thyroid medication helped it, but I still have to take eye drops 4+ times a day. Heating and AC are bad as is reading or computing too long. I'm sorry you have trouble too. How has it been for you?
Patty |
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Yvonne
Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 29
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Hi Jan & Patty,
I too had to give up wearing contact lenses. I am devastated! I have such bad eyesight that I have to wear glasses 24/7 now. Worse things I know! This all happened over the last 3 years but I only found out about my gluten problem 3 months ago.
I have very dry eyes, can't open them when I wake up in the morning. I also have a small hard lump in my salivary gland in my throat.
I haven't officially been diagnosed with Sjogren's but I think its pretty clear I have it.
I also read somewhere that this may contribute to my lifelong chronic constipation. Apparently the walls of the bowel and intestine also dry out.
Its more of an inconvenience than anything else I think.
Always great to know we're not alone!!
Have a great weekend.
Yvonne
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tobi
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 23
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:23 am Post subject: my Sjogren's |
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Thanks for all the responses. It just feels nice to hear from others with the same problem, just like Celiac disease. I suggested Sjogren's to my PCP and he just shrugged his shoulders. Then I mentioned it to the opthamologist and he said I could have Sjogren's. I'm now on a health plan that does not require a referral so I saw a rheumatologist and she diagnosed it with blood work and my symptoms.
The dry eye problem has been ongoing for about 4 years. I used to get eye infections from rubbing my eyes, tried all kinds of moisture drops, then the plugs (which worked for a little while) and now I'm on Restasis and that seems to help. I do use moistening drops all day long though. I also have floaters and all in all it is annoying. I need to check when I came off Estrogen because there may be a connection.
My saliva is diminished so I watch dental care closely. Awaiting a new electric toothbrush. Has anyone tried the Biotene products? I also want GF SUGAR free lemon drops if anyone knows about those.
Another symptom I have is difficulty swallowing which I am positive is from Sjogren's. I have had many palpable lymph nodes and even had one biopsied and all they said was no lymphoma. Lymphoma is a concern now that I have both Celiac and Sjogren's.
I do not hesitate to send literature to my doctor on all of these things.
Thanks for listening, Jan |
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PrtPaty
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 65 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject: Sjogrens |
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Hi,
Good day to all. Wow, it is so intersting about everything that one can learn just from sharing with everyone and reading their posts. It's also nice to be able to have someone else who can identify with you.
I know what you mean by not being able to open your eyes in the morning. At one time earlier this year, I was so bad like that. It kind of scared me, and I thought that my cornea's were going to rip off if I opened my eyes without using drops first. It's not as bad now, but I still have to use drops first thing I wake up. After that I grab the glasses.I have -750 eyesight. What's yours? I also have a lot of floaters too. Do you know anything about them or a good website to look at? About all I've read is that I'm more at risk for a detatched retina. Sometimes I think there is a fly in the room but it's just a floater. ha! If we get bored we can always amuse ourselves by trying to chase them.
Swallowing difficulty is a main symptom of low thyroid too as is dryness. Just thought I'd mention that going on thyroid helped me a good measure. At least now I can read again, watch TV and use computer-within reason.
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tobi
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 23
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: Sjogren's---floaters |
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My floaters happened before the dryness. The Dr. said it was the vitreous fluid folding over on itself that cause the floaters.The big ones have gone away but I still think there is a fly in my coffee cup most days!
I'm off for a week in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont for peace and quiet on Echo Lake. Awesome place. So great to hear from you all. I'll check in when I get back.
Jan |
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bcouture
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 28 Location: E.H. Connecticut
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: Sjogren's & Celiac |
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Sorry about your problem with Sjogren's... what next huh
My biggest problem is dry mouth... swallowing foods and always concerned about bad breath... One thing that has helped in this area is rinsing frequently with "biotene mouthwash", it is alchol-free; also I keep "tic-tac's" in my purse at all times. (I know the sugar thing!!)
Again eyes are a problem... but eye drops help that and the humidity in the summer helps but come winter with all the hot air the dryness is a greater problem. I don't have a partner so dryness in other areas isn't a problem, but could be to others.
Good luck, sorry about the problem but things could be worse.
Barbara |
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tobi
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 23
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:20 am Post subject: boitene |
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Hi Barbara, Thanks for your reply. What does biotene taste like? I dislike so many tastes (just one of my quirks). I am also hunting for the GF sugar free lemon drops. I have been using the CVS brand which is 15 calories. Other sugar free types have even more calories. Odd!!!
You know, life gives us little detours and we just have to adjust. I believe in learning all I can about these things.
Thanks, Jan |
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bcouture
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 28 Location: E.H. Connecticut
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:12 am Post subject: Sjogren's & Celiac |
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Hi Tobi,
| Quote: | | What does biotene taste like? I dislike so many tastes (just one of my quirks). |
I don't think it is bad, because my problem with the oral sjogren's is any hot or strong taste burns my mouth; the biotene is relatively mild and not a very strong taste. I can tolerate it very well and rinse frequently during the day just to freshen my mouth and it helps keep it moist. It is worth a try. I get it at CVS
Lemon drops I have never tried because I am not fond of strong lemon flavors - too strong for me.
Good luck Tobi, we just gotta keep trying different things (each of us) until we find something that works. No two people are the same - right?
I am sooo greatful for this CeliacForums site... it is a life saver - so much information readily available - agree?
Barbara |
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tobi
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 23
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:38 am Post subject: Thanks |
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| Thank you Barbara. I'm going to try Biotene. We're close to a CVS. Yes, this forum is awesome and SOOOO helpful. Tobi/Jan |
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Marilyn
Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 8
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:48 am Post subject: Re: Sjogren's & Celiac |
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| bcouture wrote: | Hi Tobi,
| Quote: | | What does biotene taste like? I dislike so many tastes (just one of my quirks). |
I don't think it is bad, because my problem with the oral sjogren's is any hot or strong taste burns my mouth; the biotene is relatively mild and not a very strong taste. I can tolerate it very well and rinse frequently during the day just to freshen my mouth and it helps keep it moist. It is worth a try. I get it at CVS
Lemon drops I have never tried because I am not fond of strong lemon flavors - too strong for me.
Good luck Tobi, we just gotta keep trying different things (each of us) until we find something that works. No two people are the same - right?
I am sooo greatful for this CeliacForums site... it is a life saver - so much information readily available - agree?
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Hi Tobi, & Barbara,
I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis in 1976. Then in later 1978, I had a real problem with my eyes. I thought it was just work related. My eye doctor diagnosed my problem as "dry eyes". It was so bad I felt like somebody had kicked sand in my eyes (it really hurt), and I could hardly see to run for the bus home after work.
He said to take a small drop of Johnson & Johnson baby shampoo and put it in a small glass (a shot glass) and put warm water in it and take a Q-tip and dip it in the solution and gently rub along the upper and lower eyelids at the base of the eyelashes, and to do this about 3 times a day (Since I worked full time 40+ hrs /wk, I could only do it in the morning and evening before I went to bed), but it helped.
Now looking back even to when I was young, in school, I loved milk, cheese, ice cream, etc., I needed water or milk to help me get my food down.
I was always constipated (I didn't know it wasn't normal to only have a BM once every 4 or 5 days) I didn't connect it with the dairy or the Sjoegrens.
I have difficulty swallowing bread, etc. It seems there is a connection. That doctor didn't tell me that the "dry eyes" could be Sjogren's Syndrome.
Try the Biotene toothpaste, and mouthwash, it works great for me. It is on the more expensive side, but it's worth it. It comes in peppermint, and you can get it at Safeway, RiteAid stores.
Or try the "Tom's of Maine" brand toothpaste, the fennel flavor is very soothing. I use a 50% solution of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide and water as a mouthwash, and that works good for me. (you can add more water if that's too strong to you).
When I was younger, we had Crest, or Colgate, or PepsoDent (yuk!) and Listerine, and Scope, or Baking Soda.... I always felt like it all burned (a chemical burn) the inside of my mouth and I hated it. But at the time there was nothing else.
Turned out my mother was allergic to mint. It made her mouth and throat clog up with mucous.
I don't care for mint either.
But the Biotene brand is good.
-Marilyn |
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Janet
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: sjogren's & Celiac |
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I was diagnosed with celiac in June and after I read the Gluten Free Bible I asked to be tested for Sjogren's and it was very positive. I always wonder if the delay in my diagnosis with celiac (9 years) contriuted to my developing sjogren's (I've had symptoms for 2 years but doctors always dismissed them as side effects of allergy meds. and my young age (26) likely made people doubt that). Does anyone else wonder that or have more information on that topic?
On the topic of gluten free things to keep the mouth moist, I love Hall's sugar free menthol cough drops (MUST be sugar free). Those help me a lot, since I can't use sugarless Trident at work since I am a teacher!
I suffer from oral thrush a lot, does anyone else? I just started using mycelex losenges (prescription), which seem to be helping, and those are gluten free.
Also, my rhumetologist is beginning me on Plaquenil to try and put the sjogren's into remission. Does anyone else have experience with this treatment? From what I have read, I am nervous about the side effects, but my doctor says the risk of sjogren's being so aggressive and active is higher than the medication's side effects. I would love to connect with someone who has experience with this medication.
I would love to connect with some other sjogren's sufferers, so please write back!
Janet |
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MEODell70
Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Central Coast, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: Plaquenil user |
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I've taken Plaquenil for 7 years with no complaints. I have Lupus. I've never had any side effects whatsoever. My opthomologist informs me every year that an extremely few people have eye problems from taking the medication. The studies that produced the side effects used an earlier version of the medication and at much higher doses than those used to treat our types of diseases. Of course the problems do still occur and I know someone who had the eye problems. She also has everything under the sun and doesn't tolerate medication very well in general. I'm sure there will be no worries for you  _________________ The Merry SillyYak |
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