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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:58 am    Post subject: Vinegar & Distilled Products Reply with quote

This was buried in another post...so I decided to break it out

Some people are confused by Distilled products (vinegar or booze). It has been established that distilled items are OK. The gluten molecules are too big to make it thru the distillation process - thus filtered out. You do have to be careful of what may be added AFTER the distillation process that may change it's GF status.

Does Distillation Remove All Gluten?


Most vinegars in the US are not made from wheat, but rather corn, potatoes or wood. Heinz white vinegar as it is distilled from corn. This is what we use.

http://www.heinzvinegar.com/vinegars/faqs.aspx#f6

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Are Heinz® Vinegars gluten-free?

Heinz® Distilled White Vinegar is sourced from corn, not from wheat, rye, barley, or oats. Wine Vinegar and Apple Cider Vinegar are sourced from grapes and apples, respectively, not grains. Therefore, they would all be appropriate for gluten-sensitive individuals. [COLOR="Red"]However, Heinz® Apple Cider FLAVORED Vinegar is NOT gluten free.[/COLOR]



Below are a bunch of links.

Distilled Info from Celiac.com

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Are Distilled Vinegars Made from Wheat Safe?

White vinegar or just plain vinegar are typically distilled, and, if so, are gluten-free. Distilled vinegar can be distilled from wheat, corn, potatoes, beets, wood, apples and many other things. Most in the USA are not made from wheat, but are instead made from corn, potatoes or wood, which are all safe (Heinz white vinegar is distilled from corn). Distilled vinegars that are made from wheat are probably gluten-free because of the distillation process described in Frederik Willem Janssen's article on this site.

Distilled vinegar made from wood are gluten-free. Wood-based vinegar is often the vinegar used in processed foods.

Flavored vinegars are made with white, distilled vinegar, and flavorings are then added. Some of these may also not be gluten-free (the cheapest vinegars are used since the flavors are masked by the herbs and flavoring).

Malted vinegars are usually not gluten-free.

Red and white wine and balsamic vinegars are gluten-free.


http://www.glutenfreeliving.com/ingredient.php#vinegar

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Vinegar
Distilled vinegar is gluten free and has always been gluten free. There is no evidence that suggests vinegar might be dangerous for those who follow the gluten-free diet. The only vinegar to avoid is malt vinegar, which is made from barley and is not distilled.


American Dietetic Association Revises Its Gluten-Free Guidelines - Distilled Vinegar is Safe for a Gluten-Free Diet


But I Heard That It's Not Safe To Eat...Distilled Vinegar, Rice, Vinegar

The Gluten Free Dietitian - Tricia Thompson's explanation of distilled vinegar

Enabling.org's info on Vinegar, Buckwheat and Quinoa
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump for TEC. There might be something here to use
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the bump, Al!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YW!

I noticed some of the links don't work. Sad I noticed I pretty much duplicated the links here and on your post. Smile

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump due to the discussion on vodka
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I am still a little confused, or rather, not sure I can test on my body.

I read that distillation renders a product gf, but did read somewhere that people were reacting to vodka distilled from gluten grains, if the vodka wasn't triple distilled.

I am not ready to test myself, yet. I don't know how sensitive I am.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people do say they "react" to distilled grain alcohol. What that reaction is...don't know. If you're not comfortable drinking it - it's best not to do it.

I believe Smirnoff is triple or maybe quad distilled. I also think Smirnoff is corn based...

http://www.epinions.com/review/pr-Smirnoff_Vodka_80_proof/content_196821159556

Thanks for making me remember this! A waitress at my local Outback said Smirnoff Vodak is not GF. I differed with her. I had forgotten till right now that it's corn based!!
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Smirnoff is corn distilled Reply with quote

Yea, it is corn. I read that there was some sort of Smirnoff cooler or something that was not gf, but the vodkas were fine. That is an easy one to remember is gf and is easily available.

I don't think I have ever had a vodka made from potatoes, actually. I think that is sort of ironic.

I rarely drink right now, but unfortunately, I did drink Ketel One on the one day that I tested some other item and did react to something.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct Smirnoff Ice is not GF in the USA because it's malt based. Smirnoff Ice in Canada was GF because it was vodka based. I can't say if that is the case for Canada now however.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump for Sweetea
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aklap wrote:
Correct Smirnoff Ice is not GF in the USA because it's malt based. Smirnoff Ice in Canada was GF because it was vodka based. I can't say if that is the case for Canada now however.


Same is true for Mike's Hard Lemonade- malt based in US, Vodka based and GF in Canada
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpf1007 wrote:

Same is true for Mike's Hard Lemonade- malt based in US, Vodka based and GF in Canada


Really!?! Those always look so good. Maybe it's time to move to Canada Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of the cooler type products in Canada have too high an alcohol percentage for them to be legally sold in the US (like 7% ish) , so the US changes the production to a malt based thing that apparently lowers the alcohol percentage to comply with the 5.5 % (or whatever it is).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpf1007 wrote:
A lot of the cooler type products in Canada have too high an alcohol percentage for them to be legally sold in the US (like 7% ish) , so the US changes the production to a malt based thing that apparently lowers the alcohol percentage to comply with the 5.5 % (or whatever it is).

Interesting. That explains a few things... Smile
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