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aklap

Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 10503 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:00 am Post subject: |
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So, if she "stole" the book - the info she "stole" would've been bad...  _________________ Al
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cruelshoes

Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 3343 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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I was thinking the same thing, Al.  _________________ -Colleen
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aklap

Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 10503 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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So, if that is true...EB did SH a favor by taking all the flack for it  _________________ Al
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Kathie
Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 1010 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Well gee wizz according to the 1 review of the book on Amazon EB couldn't have ripped it off..............it's not a celebrity story. Has anybody heard of this book? If SH really coined the phrase G-free she might have a case.
OMG, I just caught the reading age listed on Amazon 9-12 years, well that explains it.......OK I'm feeling a little sarcasm emoting from myself here, I think I'll slink back into my little corner of the world. But really I just hate it when people A: Steal from someone, especially when its not so good anyway, or B: Line lawyers pockets buy jumping on the their a celebrity so they can share there wealth with me band wagon. (Did anyone see the lawsuit from the guy with the 36 page book suing Rawlings for stealing his ideas for one of the gazillion page Harry Potter books?)
5.0 out of 5 stars A "Must Have" Comprehensive Book on Celiac Disease, June 10, 2009
By Caroline Gruzin (Chicago, IL) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Living with Celiac Disease (Hardcover)
This book is one of the most comprehensive books on living with celiac disease that I have found.
The author - Sue Hassett - comes across as a very down-to-earth and compassionate person eager to share her own experience with celiac in order to help others with the disease. The book is chock full of first-hand experiences of trial and error, practical advice and proven recipes developed by Sue over many years.
Sue is not a celebrity who has written this book to make a fast buck. And this book does not treat celiac disease and "G-Free" eating as a fad diet and a way to lose weight. If you are looking for a celebrity story or a fad diet book, look elsewhere.
Sue Hassett's book should be considered a "must have" for all persons diagnosed or suffering the symptoms of celiac or advised by their doctor to go on a gluten-free diet.
Note: This same woman absolutely slammed EB's book, the only other book she has reviewed by the way. Something smells fishy to me.  _________________ CD by Biopsy 3/25/88 |
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ostrich

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 4929 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Kathie wrote: | Note: This same woman absolutely slammed EB's book, the only other book she has reviewed by the way. Something smells fishy to me.  |
I'm wondering if this is some kind of publishing deal? Like Mike Rowe selling Ford trucks. She might not have even made such comments.
</tinfoilhat> _________________ Ostrich :>--O==={
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isto

Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1649 Location: State of Exhaustion
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.windstream.net/wind/portal/NewsChannel.aspx?ArticleID=D990J43O3&CatID=TopHeadlines
"Hassett said Hasselbeck's book "slavishly reproduces" lists and passages from her own work and includes inaccuracies about celiac disease that can be "misleading and dangerous" for people with the illness.
this is something we have discussed here. Apparently, Hassett is as upset over the inaccuracies as we are. She's trying to stop the publishing and get the books recalled from distributors. Hope she does it! |
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cruelshoes

Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 3343 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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If passages are lifted word for word, it should be easy to prove. If it's true, I hope she wins!
Here's the Lawyer's letter to EH
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0623_hasselbeck_wm.pdf _________________ -Colleen
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kb9oyo
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 190 Location: Western Springs, IL
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I admit that I haven't read either book, but from what I read from the lawyer's letter, I'm not impressed with either writer. The **concepts** that are involved with celiac disease are what they are and really can't be copy-written. Anybody AND everybody who writes about the disease writes pretty much the same thing. I have read other people's books about the disease and they said the same things, too! Certainly, "Rome wasn't built in a day" is not original phrasing to Susan! I don't think that they will get anything but publicity from the suit, but then, I'm not a lawyer.
Sue B. from Illinois _________________ Sue Beyer |
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Home-Based-Mom

Joined: 12 Aug 2008 Posts: 312 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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From what I read the person filing the lawsuit claims EH stole info and general layout / organization. I don't know about the general layout / organization, but the info appears to be stuff that can be found all over the internet such as a list of grains. _________________ Sandi ~ learning to live in a world obsessed and infested with wheat.
"If it wasn't food 100 years ago, it isn't food now." Mike Huckabee
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aklap

Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 10503 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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I read thru this lawyer's letter describing the "serious copyright infringements". I gotta say, if those are the only items, Ms. Hassett darn well better sue all of the celiac discussion boards too. All of the items/topics listed in that letter are all items that have been discussed countless times. Heck, I better go change my CC document or my RD document because they have lists of info and use similar phrasing.
I'm no lawyer, but I have a hard time seeing where there is "serious copyright infringements". _________________ Al
“We cannot all do great things, but we can do small things with great love.” Mother Teresa |
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Kathie
Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 1010 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Ms. Hassett better watch out if she is successful, there's a whole world of CD books out there published BEFORE hers that if someone can prove she read them they could go after her for the same thing. Seems to me like someone who is latching onto EH coat tails trying to get publicity for her book.
They are willing to take an out of court settlement.......I wonder if Ms. Hassett ever joined this forum, gee Al, you especially could get all kinds of money. Go Get Um AL  _________________ CD by Biopsy 3/25/88
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aklap

Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 10503 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Kathie wrote: | | Ms. Hassett better watch out if she is successful, there's a whole world of CD books out there published BEFORE hers that if someone can prove she read them they could go after her for the same thing. |
yeah, I meant to add previously published books too I agree with you!
| Kathie wrote: | They are will to take an out of court settlement.......I wonder if Ms. Hassett ever joined this forum, gee Al, you especially could get all kinds of money. Go Get Um AL  |
HA! I have to say all the lists I've used, posted, wrote about - food, sx or otherwise have been assembled from A) other websites B) medical journals C) books, etc.
Knowledge is amassed along the way, do I process those lists into other forms - sure....but my knowledge of this stuff was not "inborn". It had to come from somewhere.
It's kind of like copyrighting recipes - you can't copyright a recipe [aka a list of ingredients]. You CAN copyright any prose or story that accompanies said list of ingredients. There are only so many ways to say "Bring the water to a boil". _________________ Al
“We cannot all do great things, but we can do small things with great love.” Mother Teresa |
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Kathie
Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 1010 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| aklap wrote: | HA! I have to say all the lists I've used, posted, wrote about - food, sx or otherwise have been assembled from A) other websites B) medical journals C) books, etc.
Knowledge is amassed along the way, do I process those lists into other forms - sure....but my knowledge of this stuff was not "inborn". It had to come from somewhere. |
See that's the thing, this isn't like writing a fiction book, the basic facts about CD are what they are, if you took every book about CD and put them side by side they would ALL have sections of information that could be considered Stolen from each other based upon this lawyers standards. Certainly knowledge has evolved since I was diagnosed 21 years ago but there was nothing in EH's book from isto's review that was some NEW break through which means SH's wasn't either. I think the lady is just PO'd because she thought by sending her book to EH she would get free publicity (which can't hurt when you are self published). _________________ CD by Biopsy 3/25/88 |
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aklap

Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 10503 Location: WI, USA
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aklap

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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Gluten Free Living decided to offer a PDF of Amy Ratner's review that was printed in a recent issue of GFL.
| Quote: | | In light of all the attention publication of Elisabeth Hasselbeck's "The Gfree Diet" has received, we are making Gluten-Free Living's review of the book available on our website. The review recognizes the potential benefit of media buzz about celiac disease and the gluten-free diet. But more importantly, we point out problems with information in the book that reduce the value of all the publicity. |
http://www.glutenfreeliving.com/Browse/file/book%20review.pdf _________________ Al
“We cannot all do great things, but we can do small things with great love.” Mother Teresa |
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