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Lola



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the bump. This is helpful.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump for Bec
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the bump!

Wow......I am trying......all this CC stuff is got me all in a tizzy.....LOL......you mean to tell me, that all my bowls like tupperware that have had soups or anything with noodles and stuff I can't eat out of now? Shocked ....I can see the toaster.......but a bowl that I can bleach or my favorite cutting board that fits over the sink that I do use bleach as I am funny about cleaning it......now I can't use that? Mad I just ate a nice salad with just Mrs Dash on it in a PLASTIC tupperware bowl...... Crying or Very sad
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Gus's Mama



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the plastic bowl has scratches, or has those microwaved "boiling around the edges" marks, gluten can hide in there. As far as I know, alcohol is the only substance that will break down gluten and render it harmless to celiac patients (please correct me if I'm wrong, gang).

Cutting boards have the same problem....scratches and cut marks that can shelter that sneaky gluten. To be safe, we tossed all of our plastic cutting boards, plastic cooking utensiles, and even got rid of the last teflon pan in the house (don't like that evil stuff, anyway...but that's for another thread). I even got rid of my *sniff* waffle iron, as I just couldn't be sure it was adequately cleaned.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alcohol might denature proteins, but to my knowledge it won't degrade them. Since it's the protein sequence we react to alcohol won't get rid of it.
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The Edifying Conscience



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gus's Mama wrote:
As far as I know, alcohol is the only substance that will break down gluten and render it harmless to celiac patients (please correct me if I'm wrong, gang).


I've never ever heard that one before! Source or proof?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may be coming from me. I think it's in a CC thread - I made reference that gluten is not water soluble, but rather alcohol soluble. This is not to say that a celiac can eat gluten then guzzle alcohol to fix the problem - it doesn't work that way...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliadin

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α-/β-gliadins - soluble in low percentage alcohols.


Quote:
Gliadins are known for their role, along with glutenin, in the formation of gluten. It is slightly soluble in ethanol and contains only intramolecule disulfide links.



http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1536826

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The mixed reverse solid phase passive antiglobulin haemadsorption test (MRSPAH) and the enzyme linked immunosorbant assay (ELISA) were found equally sensitive and fitted for the measurement of serum IgG antibodies against alcohol soluble gliadins.


http://www.answers.com/topic/gliadin

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A protein substance that is obtained from wheat and rye. Its solubility in diluted alcohol distinguishes gliadin from glutenin.


It's gliadin that is alcohol soluble. I have removed that sentance and updated the PDF.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Gus's Mama



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup--Al was my source on that one.

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