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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Shelley Case statement on Bleu Cheese Reply with quote

It was stated at the recent GIG conference that bleu cheese is something we no longer need to be concerned about. We also learned that many times the veins in the cheese are not due to bread at all, but are created by copper wire! I have been looking for somethng in writing to back this up, and this was posted to the St. John's Listserv yesterday.

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<<Disclaimer: Verify this information before applying it to your situation.>>

The Canadian Celiac Association [CCA] has recently investigated a variety of blue cheese on the market and found that very few are made using bread mold, and when they are, the test results completed by Health Canada found no detectable levels of gluten in the final product. The new CCA Acceptability of Food and Food Ingredients for the Gluten-Free Diet pocket dictionary lists blue cheese as allowed on a gluten-free diet.


Shelley Case, B. Sc., RD
Case Nutrition Consulting, www.glutenfreediet.ca
Author: Gluten Free Diet: A Comprehensive Resource Guide
Medical Advisory Board: Celiac Disease Foundation, Gluten Intolerance Group,
Canadian Celiac Association
Advisory Board: Living Without Magazine

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is good news to me! I don't have "acute" reactions to anything, so I really can't tell if I have been glutened. I love blue cheese and always have. When I was a small child, (about 60 years ago!) it used to make my mouth itch. Hives?? It doesn't any more probably because they have changed the process used in making it. Now, I can feel that it is safe to eat.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay! I love and miss bleu cheese.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Blue Cheese Reply with quote

In this quarters gluten free living on page 8 there is an article about the Top 10 nagging ingredient questions

#2 states: Cheese
"Real cheese made the old-fashioned way with milk cultures and possible salt is gluten free, including the blue cheeses. Processed cheese, meaning cheese make from natural and added ingredients, is highly likely to be gluten free. But of course you have to read the label.

There has been concern about the blue cheeses because some are "started" using gluten containing bread. But years ago an Italian study attempted to quantify the amount of gluten that might remain in cheese started with moldy gluten contaning bread.

The researchers calculated that the maximum amount of gluten that might remain after the cheese is made is 0.00274 ppm. You would have to eat an awful lot of blue cheese in a short period of time for this tiny amount to be dangerous."


News to me as I thought it was a definite no. Always listed on the dining cards and several books under the I cannot eat section.

Anyone else heard anything about blue cheese? I would love to be able to eat it again.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that all of this is just an excellent example of the fact that all things in the Internet and in books live forever. When new and improved information comes along, the old information doesn't go away and stays around to confuse everybody. Old books and blogs are not updated, so when a newbie starts to do research he becomes confused with conflicting information. Obviously, the safest choice is eliminate the "culprit" until the dust settles. Compounding this problem is when new writers and speakers make statements using the old information. And, no, I don't have a clue how to solve this dilemma.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 extremely reliable an up to date sources have said it is OK to eat: Cynthia Kuller from GIG, Shelley Case from the CCA and Gluten Free Living. And they have the studies to back it up. To me, that trumps any older information.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coleen: I completely agree with you. I just find it frustrating that when I think I have gotten good, competent, researched information and changed my mind about a subject, I see newer postings that contradict it again. It makes it so hard to keep track of things without a program! Shocked

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kb9oyo wrote:
Coleen: I completely agree with you. I just find it frustrating that when I think I have gotten good, competent, researched information and changed my mind about a subject, I see newer postings that contradict it again. It makes it so hard to keep track of things without a program! Shocked

Sue B


You got that right, sister! I feel really bad for anyone starting the diet today. There is just so much conflicting information out there. Too much information can be worse than not enough!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadian Celiac Assoc's PDF on Bleu Cheese - http://www.glutenfreediet.ca/img/bluecheese.pdf

Quote:
Based on the most sensitive tests currently
available on the market and our understanding
of the minute amounts of mould spores used
in the making of the cheese, we may conclude
that blue cheese is safe for consumption as
part of the gluten-free diet. In the future,
we may attempt to test more samples of
blue cheese in order to validate the results
described above.

I hope that the research outlined above will
put to rest the controversy surrounding blue
cheese and that patients with celiac disease
will enjoy the unique taste and sensory
experience it has to offer.
for the Canadian Celiac Association’s Pocket
Dictionary of Ingredients - Acceptability of
Foods & Food Ingredients for the Gluten-Free
Diet.


Tricia Thompson [The Gluten Free Dietitian] has this to say about Bleu Cheese

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In my opinion, blue cheese is safe for persons with celiac disease to eat unless the label contains the words wheat, barley, rye, oats, or malt or the company states their product is not gluten free.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Stilton and actually called the UK to talk to the chemist at my favorite cheesemakers back in the day (who was very amused about some "coeliac" calling from the USA). I was not giving up Stilton without accurate info. Yes, its GF. And he had a lovely accent (*swoon*)

P.S. Here is my favorite Stilton being made, not a piece of bread in sight
http://www.cropwellbishopstilton.com/company-information/information-pages/production-process-for-blue-stilton-cheese-2007071341/
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruelshoes wrote:
You got that right, sister! I feel really bad for anyone starting the diet today. There is just so much conflicting information out there. Too much information can be worse than not enough!

IMHO, that's what makes this particular forum such a good one. Everyone makes sure that up-to-date info is posted, and when people post out-dated info someone usually follows up with the correct facts/latest research. Not to mention, we're just fun people to be around! Laughing This board is made up of such positive, can-do people for the most part. We're not about to let a disease stop us from enjoying this life we were given, and we do it wheatless, no less! I said wheatless, Wink NOT witless.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

celiacmaine-iac wrote:
I said wheatless, Wink NOT witless.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

celiacmaine-iac wrote:
This board is made up of such positive, can-do people for the most part.

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