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daughteroftheking



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Correlation? Reply with quote

Does anyone know if there is a correlation between Celiac Disease, dairy sensativity, low back pain & diarreha? Reason I ask is that I was diagnosed about 3-4 yrs. ago, but latley I've been having horrible low back pain and getting sick more often. I notice it happens more often if I eat a lot of dariy, but not always. So if anyone can help I would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you lactose intolerant or have you become allergic to milk and milk products? It almost sounds like you have been glutenized and are not aware of it. Praying that you find the cause of your troubles. Blessings of hope and peace to you.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Yup! Reply with quote

There's a correlation, and a reason. When the intestines are inflamed (due to eating dairy in your case), the sacroiliac joints and lumbar spine can easily become inflamed as well. It's just "geography" -- they are close in proximity (bowel sits up against the lumbar spine and SI joints), and therefore it gets inflamed. It's been written up in lots of medical literature, and is fairly common.

I cannot touch dairy in any form, any amount -- my low back gets very bad when I do, but as long as I stay GF and dairy-free, I'm fine. (I've found that the dark chocolate is a good substitute for milk chocolate, but watch the labels -- some darks also have butter, cream, milk, etc.)

So, get rid of the dairy and you'll be okay.

Lexi
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi DotK,

It's nice to hear from you again. Sorry to hear you're having trouble.

Yes dairy can cause gastro problems & inflammation issues. Many celiacs are lactose (sugar component of dairy) intolerant. This is because the tips of the villi produce lactase - an enzyme that breaks down lactose. Once the villi heal, they start producing lactase again...thus breaking down the lactose. Some celiacs can handle some dairy then.

It might be possible you have a casein sensitivity issue. Casein is the protein component of milk. Or other food intolerances...soy or corn is a biggie.

I think Lexi is right...ditch the dairy and see how it goes.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My celiac husband started out being lactose intolerant and soon went into being totally dairy intolerant. Same symptoms you've described. Try being dairy free and see how you feel. My husband was feeling 1000% better in no-time at all. Good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my ten year old has low back pain often. I thought she was being dramatic. Because she is celiac, lactose intol. I think I will give her the benefit of doubt now and tell her to lay off the milk or at the very least take a lactaid. She cheats often with dairy but not gluten. I try to let her feel some power in the decission but this will help I am sure. Thanks for leading us to an obvious conclussion...I totally missed.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
I think I will . . . tell her to lay off the milk or at the very least take a lactaid.


SOrry to say, but I don't think that's enough -- I can't touch any dairy (tried the lactose-free kind), or my back pain returns with a vengeance. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not the lactose -- maybe the casein? That means no chocolate with milk in it, even snacks like Cheetos have cheese.

Lexi
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I think I will . . . tell her to lay off the milk or at the very least take a lactaid.


SOrry to say, but I don't think that's enough -- I can't touch any dairy (tried the lactose-free kind), or my back pain returns with a vengeance. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not the lactose -- maybe the casein? That means no chocolate with milk in it, even snacks like Cheetos have cheese.

Lexi


You are right Lexi, it could very well be the casein (the protein) compenent of milk. Lactose is the sugar compenent. Just like people are sensitive to gluten (protein in wheat), some are sensitive to casein.

Stopping just the milk may not full work. Like Lexi said...you'd need to find the hidden casein...just like the hidden gluten.

In many ways a casein free diet is harder than GF.
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