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Sammy_B



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Gelato/Ice Cream Stands Reply with quote

Greetings-

One of my treats when I travel is to find gelato shops and have some sorbet (i cant have dairy), now that im super strict with my GF diet do I have to cut this out as well. Does anyone go to gelato/ice cream shops ? the nice thing about gelato places is that they have dedicated scoopers for each flavor, but you still never know where cross contamination can come from. This is my one little treat and if I have to give this up im gonna be miserable. I go to philly a lot and they have an amazing gelato place with incredible and diverse flavors

thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're staying in a hotel room with a fridge, why not buy some sorbet you know is safe and store it in there?

IMHO the risks of this are just as great as any restaurant.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:50 am    Post subject: Well Reply with quote

Honestly its just not as good- stores only have standard boring flavors (raspberry, lemon, etc) - gelato shops have unique flavors such as guava, banana, avocado, plum, etc and they taste so much better because they are "homemade" and not processed in a factory with preservatives
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Well Reply with quote

Sammy_B wrote:
Honestly its just not as good- stores only have standard boring flavors (raspberry, lemon, etc) - gelato shops have unique flavors such as guava, banana, avocado, plum, etc and they taste so much better because they are "homemade" and not processed in a factory with preservatives

Sammy- I'm going to preface what I say with this: I am not coming at this with a "holier than thou" attitude. I really struggled with all these issues in the past year. I was under a tremendous amount of stress, which is not always the best time to be making decisions that can impact your life. After a year and a half of being 100% GF, I went into denial mode big-time, and decided to see if gluten really was my problem. Like you, I did not have any positive testing, even though I went the whole gamut. However, I have a strong family history of CD. Apparently both my parents have copies of at least one of the genes. I was having severe gut and skin issues at the time of testing. After I was finished with all the testing, I went GF for good, and healed remarkably. I have never felt better in my life. So, during my denial phase, I tried NGF foods a few times. For the first few times I had no reaction. I gave myself a good talking to and got back on the bandwagon. Not long after that I got glutened by accident. I know it was gluten, because my symptoms were exactly like they were pre-GF. Did my experimentation serve any purpose? Well, I learned that I can't always trust in symptoms to tell me whether or not I've ingested gluten. I also learned that nothing is worth destroying my health over. Heck, the things I ate didn't even taste good to me anymore. I remember eating something I thought I really missed since going GF, and thinking, "what was that all about?"

All that being said, if being bored with only a few flavors of gelato is what it takes to be healthy, then be bored. You have to be pro-active about your own health. No one else can do it for you. If you call a restaurant ahead of time (as you mentioned in another thread) to see if they can feed you safely, but are not sure you have the nerve to follow through in person, place your order while on the phone, and give them your name. When you get there let them know you are Mr. XYZ and that you ordered ahead. There's always a solution. When you are at home, experiment with cooking. Learn how to make new things. I'll bet you can even find a gelato/sorbet cookbook on Amazon. Surf the net for recipes too.You may just reverse things, so that when you are traveling you eat boring, and look forward to getting great treats safely at home.
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Sammy_B



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:01 am    Post subject: RE: Reply with quote

Hi Steph-

thanks for your feedback. Out of curiosity do you eat out at all? its going to be impossible for me to avoid restaurants completely with my lifestyle

Sammy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they use the same equipment to make the dairy flavors and the non-dairy flavors? If so, it's likely that the sorbet would be contaminated before it even got to the display case. I guess it would depend on how sensitive to dairy you are. Have you asked what their cleaning practices are?

Perhaps you could ask them to get some out of the back with a clean scoop. That way it would not have had a chance to get contaminated.

I hope you find a way to make it work for you.
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celiacmaine-iac



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I do eat out. Not as often as I used to pre-GF. I've eaten at home so much in the past couple of years, that I really don't enjoy the meals I eat out as much as I used to. It all seems too salty to me now. I have found a few restaurants that I trust and use those most of the time. I have found that in a restaurant that is an "unknown", talking to the manager really helps assure I get a safe meal.

If you are dining out with clients, then I think a phone call placed ahead of time to the restaurant would be a good place to start. Ask to speak to the manager, and ask questions. You should be able to judge the manager's knowledge/competence level very quickly. If you have any doubts, then trust your instincts. If you have to deal with the issue in any way with the client there, just be matter of fact about it. I think almost everyone is impacted by food issues these days, whether it's allergies or CD, family members with food issues, etc. As long as you don't tell the whole story in all its gory details, I can't imagine that anyone would have a problem with it. If you deal with things ahead of time you will be less apt to feel like the spotlight is on you. And don't ever hesitate to send something back if it is wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: RE: Reply with quote

Thanks Steph! Are there any chain restaurants you trust? I travel to some obscure locations on occasion and aside from PF changs and outback, not much is available..to be honest im not even crazy about that food and would prefer to pick something up at the market and prepare in my room, but sometimes is just nice to get out I guess. Obviously a more high end restaurant will most likely accommodate folks like us.

Part of my problem (if thats what you want to call it) is that I dont really get symptoms when i eat gluten, so i never really know when its entering my body. So many foods cause bloat and discomfort that its hard to single out gluten as the culprit. therefore im a bit more laid back about eating out and always assume if i discuss with a kitchen manager in detail I will be fine, but I imagine its different with people who get severely sick from a single breadcrumb..a lot more is on the line
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sammy_B wrote:
Are there any chain restaurants you trust?

My personal experience is that chains can be very "location specific" as far as getting a safe meal. It's another reason to talk with a manager in any restaurant to get an idea of their knowledge base. I have had good luck with Uno's, Macaroni Grill, and Outback. You can also check out a restaurant chain's website to get info about their gluten-awareness. I recently viewed a restaurant website that told what dishes they offered that were GF, but the message that came across on the site was, "We're giving you this info, but eat at your own risk." I guess I'm grateful that they are at least up front about it, but I thought it was a poor attitude for a business to take in a very competitive field. Needless to say, I will go where I feel like a serious effort is being made to accomodate people with food issues. Ultimately, it is always a risk to eat out. Some choose to never take that risk, and others, like me, make sure it's a very calculated risk by checking everything out that we can before eating.
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