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Brendan
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 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject: BEER |
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| Is there a gluten free beer??? I have heard Bud Light is gluten free... |
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Maria1223
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject: beer |
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| all beer has malt hoops in it. no beer is gluten free |
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aklap
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Brendan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:15 am Post subject: BEER |
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I got this reply from Anheuser-Busch when I emailed them to ask if Bud Light is gf:
We truly appreciate your interest in our products. The information below should not replace advice from your physician, but we hope it's helpful when you consult with your doctor.
Anheuser-Busch beers vary in the type and mix of ingredients and in certain refinements of the brewing process to achieve their distinctive and unique characteristics. But all are alike in one respect - every Anheuser-Busch beer is brewed without artificial ingredients, additives or preservatives.
Glutens (gliadin, hordein, and gluten) are protein substances which are found in some cereal grains (i.e. wheat, rye, barley and oats). These glutens are "degraded" in the malting and brewing process into compounds called amino acids. We have been unable to detect the undegraded gluten compound in our beers. However, recent investigations have suggested that the gluten degradation products may aggravate the condition in some celiac patients. We suggest you consult with your physician |
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Brendan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: long-term effect |
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| Does anyone know the long term effects of not doing a strict gf diet? I do not have celiac, I have an alergy to gluten. Now and then (ok...last night) I will drink a few beers or eat a piece of bread...will this cause long term damage? In the short term, I get a stomach ache and gas... |
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inertiacreep
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Lots of liquors use caramel coloring, which is frequently made from barley. So watch that too.
Though, one of my friends who was diagnosed Celiac drinks Coke, which I was under the impression I couldn't drink because of caramel coloring. So, maybe Coke is gluten free as well? |
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aklap
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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A LOT of the mainstream soda pop is GF. Coke, Pepsi, A&W Root beer, Mt Dew, Slice, Sierra Mist... Please check out the Chicago Mainstream Food List. 50 pages of GF food!!! But remember please check the labels and if in doubt - call the products company to verify!
Also check Celiac.com's Safe and Forbidden Food Ingredients. If you look at the bottom in the footnotes. They explain the carmel coloring a little bit. It says: * 1) If this ingredient is made in North America it is likely to be gluten-free.
* 3) The problem with caramel color is it may or may not contain gluten depending on how it is manufactured. In the USA caramel color must conform with the FDA standard of identity from 21CFR CH.1. This statute says: "the color additive caramel is the dark-brown liquid or solid material resulting from the carefully controlled heat treatment of the following food-grade carbohydrates: Dextrose (corn sugar), invert sugar, lactose (milk sugar), malt syrup (usually from barley malt), molasses (from cane), starch hydrolysates and fractions thereof (can include wheat), sucrose (cane or beet)." Also, acids, alkalis and salts are listed as additives which may be employed to assist the caramelization process.
But you are right to be wary of it because you never really know unless it's been verified.
Brendan - Not staying in a STRICT GF diet allows for more damage to occur. Not only intestinal but body wide. It is an auto immune reaction. They are finding links to gluten and other auto immune diseases. Take some time and read thru The Gluten File. It's well worth the time to read.
I was the same way when eating gluten. I'd have a beer or pizza and I'd get reflux, gas, stomach pain and a host of other ore serious issues. Once I went GF - it all stopped!!!
I have stayed away from beer since I've been GF. The last beer I had was March '03. A Jamaican Red Strip...while speeding thru town in one of their taxis  I do want to try some of the GF beer tho!!
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lynda
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brendan
thats what i have too just an allergy to gluten not the celiac disease
so i thougth perhaps i could cheat a bit too
im recently diagnosed so the gluten isnt out of my system yet
but im told to try hard to get completely gluten free
the stomach has calmed down
but the headaches r really bad still........
good luck
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inertiacreep
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This is from the Bard's Beer website.
| Quote: | A Word about Gluten and Beer
by Kevin Seplowitz
There have been numerous claims that traditional barley-based beers are gluten free or that all beers are gluten free. Unfortunately, the area is very grey and substantiated on technicalities. The purpose of this paper is to eliminate the confusion about gluten as it relates to beer.
Gluten is an umbrella term used to describe a mixture of individual proteins found in many grains. Celiac disease (celiac sprue or gluten intolerance, gluten sensitivity) is an autoimmune disorder that is triggered by the ingestion of some of these glutens. People with classic celiac disease are intolerant to the gluten proteins found in wheat, barley, rye, spelt and a couple other lesser known grains. All these grains have a relative of the gluten protein. Interestingly, corn, rice and sorghum also have gluten proteins but are not toxic to celiacs. Herein lies one of the fundamental problems; the use of the term “gluten intolerance” to cover only certain gluten containing grains is confusing for consumers and food manufacturers alike. Unfortunately, it seems that the inertia for using celiac disease and gluten intolerance as synonyms is unstoppable. Therefore, it becomes the responsibility of both consumers and manufacturers to make sure the terms being discussed are defined and understood.
As this relates to beer, there is a gluten protein found in barley. This protein is known as hordein. Wheat gluten is known as gliadin. Rye gluten is known as secalin. Presently, assay tests (or lab tests) are only commercially available for the testing of gliadin. We are unaware of any tests for hordein or any manufacturer that presently tests for hordein (Note: If you know of anyone that does in fact test specifically for hordein, please let us know). Therefore the idea that a barley based beer can be considered gluten free based upon the lack of testing is very difficult to fathom. It should be understood that a company using an assay test for gliadin to test for hordein will not return accurate results.
There has been widespread speculation that the brewing process eliminates these hordein proteins making all beers gluten-free. Although commercial assay tests for hordein are not available there is conclusive evidence that the brewing process does not degrade hordein to non-toxic levels. A research study in Australia (www.regional.org.au/au/abts/1999/sheehan.htm) on improving beer haze shows that hordein is still present in beer after the brewing process. Therefore, claims that hordein or gluten is destroyed in the brewing process is unsubstantiated and clearly, based upon the Australian research, is highly questionable.
Based upon the continuous claims by beer companies that beers are gluten free, it is clear that the issue is misunderstood and, as always, it is up to the consumer to educate them on the facts. Hopefully, the information provided here will give consumers and manufacturers alike the ability to discuss these gluten issues intelligently and effectively.
About the author: Kevin Seplowitz is the President and Co-founder of the Bard’s Tale Research Company, LLC an organization that researches the correlations between nutrition, diet, and autoimmune disorders. Bard’s Tale Research owns and operates Bard’s Tale Beer Company, LLC a company that develops commercial gluten-free beers. Mr. Seplowitz is a diagnosed Celiac. |
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aklap
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Inertia,
Thanks for posting that from their site. I had forgotten about that bit of info!!!
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inertiacreep
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No problem.
I also work at a restaurant, (thank god my intolerance is weak, we have a bakery on site) and have asked our Budweiser rep to find out about whether or not Bud and Bud Light are GF. Of course, in light of the info I posted, I'm not sure they know. |
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aklap
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You might ask your restaurant to carry the Bards Beer!! Or any of the other GF beer. Although most of the others would be imports. Then you wouldn't have to worry If restaurants only knew that if they'd carry GF beer and market it...they'd have a gold mine. I'm sure there are more people than just me that want a beer! The restaurant too...if Celiacs find a place they can safely eat...they will have many loyal customers!! Hence my selection of Outback as my favorite place
I need to print out the form at their site and take it to my local Outback Steakhouse and see if I can get them to carry it. I would like to have a beer again <da-rool, da-rool> hehehehe
People always ask me if I can have Bud because it's made with rice. I always tell them NO because of the barley. You're right - most don't know - unless they NEED to know. (like us)
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