Do you smoke?

superdog · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 116

electromagnetic energy causes cancer ie electricity.... shall we turn off the lights now??

link http://www.midtod.com/9603/voltage.phtml

benzene which is found not only in fumes but also car exhaust can also be found in your drinking water.... link here.... http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminants/dw_contamfs/benzene.html

my point is YES smoking is bad, but its not the only way that people are killing themselves, we are killing ourselves everyday by where we live and the choices we make. caffeine, alchohol all cause cancer, many things do that is my point, smokers get blamed for everything.... when the truth is the next time you reach for that apple you better check that it is not a GM ie genetically modified food as that causes cancer, insecticides, our drinking water and yes the exhaust from cars all cause cancer, the list goes on and on. its easy to say stop smoking, but really who is stepping up to stop all the causes? noone these are all legal things to do to put all this crap in our food. we are surrounded by cancer causing agents daily besides cigarrette smoke just some of us dont know it yet.

sorry had to come back and post again. Embarassed

and yes smoking is bad, i am not saying differently, but its not the only or main cause for concern....
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mrsppmrxky · Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 1471 Location: GF Kitchen

Superdog, I hear ya! I hate smoking.........highly allergic, but I get really mad when the smoker is protrayed as the scum of the earth. Make it illegal if it is 'so' bad instead of the constant yammering.

Now, sorry about your accident! My dad would have said the reason that politicians do not make the same stink about drinkers as they do smokers is because most of them do not want to pay for the increased taxes..........Ted Kennedy would be referred to as 'poor' ole Ted Kennedy. LOL Sad but true. Most politicians could not afford to pay that additional tax. (Personally, think of those untold tax dollars! It would really help with rising health care costs.)
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aklap · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8604 Location: WI, USA

Quiet frankly, I really don't give a flying f!@# what most others do. If you want to smoke - go right ahead - it's your body. If you want to eat gluten - go right ahead - it's your body. Hell, I'll even give ya the donuts and the cigs... But don't make me to rush your sorry backend to the hospital when your dying because you can't breath and have intestinal cancer. Don't put me thru that agony when YOU had a choice in the matter.

Is it wrong not to want to see our friends and loved one suffer?

I don't think it's unreasonable to want to keep our friends and loved ones around as long as possible. Sure we all make choices and take risks in this life. There are also many things that our outside of control. Why not be proactive about some the things we do have control over?

Dog, why is it that you stopped eating gluten?
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superdog · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 116

Al, is that a rhetorical question?? i quit eating gluten because i almost died from it Crying or Very sad

do i eat it now?? No way, dont even have any gluten products in the house.

my point was that, everyone blames smoking for all their problems, cancer, lung cancer, when its just not true!! look at 911 for instance the govt said it was safe to go out and it wasnt. now people are suffering from lung problems and lung cancer. anyhow, my point is yes you can stop yourself from getting cancer not just by not being around smoke or banning smoking but by turning off your electricity, not driving, not watching tv, not eating manmade foods, insecticides, you could lobby the factories for cleaner air, nope its just easier to bash the smoker Shocked

but no people dont want to give up these things, instead its easier to bash the smoker and make them pay.
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The Edifying Conscience · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 2438

Superdog,
I've managed to refrain myself from responding to this thread up to this point. In fact I'm still keeping myself from posting what I really want to say.

Here's the deal...smoking is a nasty, dirty habbit. It makes smokers smell bad, it ages their skin prematurely and it causes a multitude of health problems. The saddest part is that smokers have a bias against them and I'm not sure they're aware of that.

If you want to smoke those cancer sticks knock yourself out. I don't really care. I do however care that when I go out and find myself in a bar the nasty habbit exposes me to second hand smoke and makes me smell bad. So bad so, that I always shower and put my clothes straight into the washer machine as soon as I get home...even if it's 3AM.

I would love to see some studies that say smoking causes as many health issues as caffeine, alcohol, water, GM fruit, insecticides, car exhaust, etc. A smoker might be lucky and live to be 90, but he or she might die prematurely due to a smoking related death. I'm not a betting person but I'll eagerly put my money on premature death.

Happily on January 1st, smoking in ANY (including bar and restaurants) public place in Illinois will be AGAINST the law! Laughing

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nancw · Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 855 Location: Denver, CO

Maybe we should talk about religion - it might be a little less volatile.
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gluten, dairy, soy, rice, yeast and 99% grain-free

aklap · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8604 Location: WI, USA

aklap · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8604 Location: WI, USA

cruelshoes · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 2545 Location: Washington State

Clearly you are not going to change your mind. This is obviously an issue you feel very strongly about.

aklap · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8604 Location: WI, USA

cruelshoes · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 2545 Location: Washington State

Note to self - make chocolate chip cookies this weekend. Maybe I will get a little peace and quiet on the home front. Laughing

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aklap · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 8604 Location: WI, USA

ROTFLMBO!
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superdog · Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 116

you can say i am angry or volatile, but the only reason its coming across that way is because i am standing up for smokers... going against the grain. i read through this thread, and i have read it should be illegal to smoke in your car its a public place blah blah blah, this whole thread has been about how much smoking sucks stinks what have you... its in an open area, its not enough its banned everywhere you go, but to start pushing for it to be banned in your own freaking car, UNBELIEVEABLE!! and you guys say i am getting mad or volatile over it, heck yeah, first you want the govt. to regulate everything for you, and now you want them to tell EVERYONE how they should live. i dont infringe on your lives, whether you are fat or diabetic or have some other health concerns.

bars should have the right to choose if they will be a nonsmoking or smoking establishment. i dont goto bars, i dont drink except the occasional glass of wine, but the fact remains the bars are having their rights stripped from them as well. do you know how many businesses have been lost because of the ban?? so good for you guys you wont have to goto a smoking establishment again whether it be a restaurant or what have you, next you will say wait you cant smoke on your porch because i can smell it through my window, or wait, you cant smoke in your apartment because the next renter might not like it.... to me its about people trying to control other peoples choices.

to me smokers always get the bad rap. why not alchoholics?? cigs keep getting taxed because of stupid stuff. and i think its wrong of our govt. and wrong of so many americans to do this to smokers. when there are so many more important things to worry about. tax the smokers, they are unhealthy, of course you wont see a hersheys bar getting taxed like that!! of course not, or how about all that fast food people eat!!! no even on this thread everything is about banning smoking from everywhere but my own bathroom...

for the record, they do sell tobacco that is natural and you can make them yourself so you dont get all those extra chemicals and what have you in them, and in fact its much cheaper to buy natural tobacco and make your own cigs. just helping out my silent fellow smokers Wink

you can also grow your own tobacco legally and it grows fast.

now i have said my peace probably made a bunch of enemies Rolling Eyes

but i have said everything in the previous posts you can believe what i have posted about all the poisons in the food you eat but you do nothing about, or the fumes exuding from your car which you refuse to not drive esp. those big suvs, factories, cleaner water, i could go on and on, but i wont. i will let this all go and let you guys go cook those sugar filled cookies, and i will finish up my veggies here.

take care all Exclamation

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