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Demo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: GF Oat's Question Reply with quote

Has anyone used any product without any ill effects?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this thread. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently posted this on another forum. I seemed to not have suffered from any ill effects of eating GF oats, but frankly, I can't figure out what to do with them. I don't really miss oats at all! ~Claire


I finally broke down and spent $11 on 2.75 pounds of "gluten free" oats.

There are two companies in the US that are using dedicated combines and factories to process GF oats, one in Montana and one in Wyoming. I believe the one in Montana is Gifts of Nature, which is the one I purchased. There isn't too much on their website about GF oats. Gluten Free Oats is the other company. Their oats are <10ppm GF. I checked out their field inspection report, and it said that two durum wheat plants were found during that particular inspection and were removed. It made me wonder how many other wheat plants were missed. It's not like these inspectors walk through the whole field, they just walk through a sample of it.

Even if the oats are gluten-free, there is another protein sequence in the oats, avenin, that some gluten intolerant people also react with. It seems that the protein sequence in avenin is similar, but not exact, to gliadin. Here's information from the Celiac Sprue Association's website:

http://www.csaceliacs.org/library/useofoats.php

BTW, the CSA position is no oats, GF or not.

On a personal note, I had GF oatmeal today for breakfast. I was all excited about it, and then I realized that I never really liked oatmeal all the much after I was done eating it! I always prefered Cream of Wheat ! So, I guess I'll just stick with my homemade cream of rice that I like better . I think I got it for the novelty factor, and plus, I don't like to be denied "normal" foods that everyone else is eating.

Also interesting is that when I first was contemplating buying the GF oats, I "tested" it on myself. What I do is I take whatever I want to test, hold it, ask myself, "Is this good for me?", and I see which way I fall. If I fall forward, it's good for me. If I fall backwards, it's bad for me. This is by no means a reliable test! With that caveat, the first time I tested the GF oats, it tested bad. The second time I tested it was when a different batch came in the store, and it tested good. Then, I tested myself against something I knew would be bad for me; I tested regular oats. When I did this, I felt an electric shock go through my body and immediately fell backwards! I have never had such a reaction when I've done a test like this. It was strange and I knew that regular oats is definitely a no-no for me. I also took my GF oats to have my acupuncturist test it with his machine on me, and he said it was ok. Only then, did I venture to eat it. So far, so good, but I won't really know for a couple of more days my reaction.

Based on my different reactions to different batches of GF oats, and the information I read on the Gluten Free Oats webpage, I think it would be possible to get a "bad" batch of GF oats that had some higher level of gluten in it.

At our local CSA support group meeting, some people said they were ok with GF oats, and others reacted badly to them. The recommendation was to eat only twice a week, not more than 1/4 cup initially. If there are any negative changes, then blame the oats.

More reading on GF oats:
http://www.celiac.com/st_main.html?p_catid=14

Has anyone else tried GF oats?

Claire
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank's for your posts. My son has been GF for two years now and we have been thinking about reintroducing oats to him. He never was a big oatmeal fan but misses his oatmeal cookies.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

University of Chicago Celiac Disease Program has recently change their oat stance. They now say NO oats.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading some of the sites posted by Claire I think I'll pass on them for now also.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do eat the GF oats occasionally. Not as often as I thought I would, though. I think they were more symbolic of something I couldn't have for a year after I was diagnosed. Something to strive for, if that makes sense. I have not had any ill effects from them. I haven't given them to my son yet, though, since he needs to have his follow-up bloodwork first.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TEC wrote:
University of Chicago Celiac Disease Program has recently change their oat stance. They now say NO oats.


Interesting...is this on their website anywhere??
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son just had bloodwork done and everything was perfect. I don't want to do anything to jeopardize that. So I guess we will stick to peanut butter cookies!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This company is in Quebec and guarantees GF oats. Here is the website: www.creamhillestates.com.

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According to the Celiac Disease Foundation/Gluten Inolerance Group "Quick Start Diet Guide for Celiac Disease" Revised 10/2006 states the following about Oats:

"Research indicates that pure, uncontaminated oats consumed daily in moderation (1/2-3/4 cup dry rolled oats) are tolerated by most adults with celiac disease. Consult your physician or dietitian before including oats in your diet and for regular monitoring."
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diamondheart wrote:
It seems Also interesting is that when I first was contemplating buying the GF oats, I "tested" it on myself. What I do is I take whatever I want to test, hold it, ask myself, "Is this good for me?", and I see which way I fall. If I fall forward, it's good for me. If I fall backwards, it's bad for me. This is by no means a reliable test! With that caveat, the first time I tested the GF oats, it tested bad. Claire


Interesting, I took a class in muscle kinesiology, and thats the only way I can "test" myself for any type of foods.
For those that are wondering..food and all things have energy, and when we hold an item, we can determine if a food supplement, anything is actually good for our system. Its interesting and it appears to be helpful to an individual for finding the best food, vitamin, supplement for the system at that moment.

Thanks Claire..I do like my oats, but I think I will steer clear of them for the time being.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aklap wrote:
TEC wrote:
University of Chicago Celiac Disease Program has recently change their oat stance. They now say NO oats.


Interesting...is this on their website anywhere??


I just saw this message and gave the site a quick look, but I didn't see any mention of oats. The site is celiacdisease.net. I'm a little strapped for time today as you might imagine.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trixxie wrote:
For those that are wondering..food and all things have energy, and when we hold an item, we can determine if a food supplement, anything is actually good for our system.


Please clarify... are you saying by just holding a food you can tell if it has gluten in it? Pardon me if I seem a bit skeptical. Can you tell me how you do that?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fidissimus wrote:
trixxie wrote:
For those that are wondering..food and all things have energy, and when we hold an item, we can determine if a food supplement, anything is actually good for our system.


Please clarify... are you saying by just holding a food you can tell if it has gluten in it? Pardon me if I seem a bit skeptical. Can you tell me how you do that?


I don't think you could tell if it has gluten in it, just if it agrees with you or not. I can't provide an explanation of applied kinesiology (muscle testing), but I believe trixxie did a good job of giving a simplified version of it. It's not fool proof, but I've had it done by different health care practitioners with different methods, and they have pretty much told me the same thing. I used to think it was voodoo, but have found over the years for it to be very helpful for me. If you are skeptical, that's fine. It's not for everyone.

Claire
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: gluten free oats Reply with quote

http://www.naturallyglutenfree.com/product/956043.0cream Hill Oats

I have eaten Cream Hills Gluten Free oats for several months now with no ill effect. I love oat meal, scones, and oatmeal cookies so I was glad to find a brand of gluten free oats.
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