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kreynolds



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: how do I make black bottoms Reply with quote

I was wondering if any one had a recipe for black bottoms? I have been buying them from a natural store and I have been paying $1.60 a piece. I thought it may be cheeper if I made them myself and froze them.
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aklap



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi K,

What t'heck are black bottoms?!?!?! Smile


Ahhhh a quick google...

http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,1710,144178-232200,00.html

This is not a GF recipe...BUT...you could use a GF choc. cake mix, Phily Cream cheese, Nestle's choc. chips.

Here's another NGF recipe. You'd have to sub the flour.

http://www.scug.org/Recipes/Cakes/Black%20Bottoms.htm


I HAVE NOT TRIED ANY OF THESE. I was just curious as to what a black bottom was Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kathy,

Do you have a NGF recipe of these that you used to use? Maybe if you post it, some of the cake baking mavens could help you convert it.

I'm dangerous when it comes to baking - I can't run a measuring cup!!

Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject: black bottoms Reply with quote

you are to funny Al
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The Edifying Conscience



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: black bottoms Reply with quote

So, what is a black bottom?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cupcakes with cream cheese in the middle - sorta
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have looked at your links, sorry.

I would just use a chocolate cake mix, the recipe Pretty Quick and Darn Tasty Chocolate Cupcakes would work well. It uses a Bob's Red Mill Chocolate Cake Mix as the base. I would make the cake batter following the cake directions.

Then I would make the cream cheese mixture following the recipe on the NGF black bottom recipe and I would follow those directions for putting them filling the muffin tins.

Regarding baking time I would bake them using the GF cake baking time. I've found that most gluten free cakes bake longer than the NGF varieties.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe there is a variation on the Bob's Red Mill Brownie Mix for something like this. I've made them and they are awesome.
I also add GF chocolate chips to any brownies I make now - I gently add them to the top layer of the batter (not on top - mixed into the top layer) before putting them in the oven.
TEC's PQ&DGCC (see RECEIPE section) are very good. I've made them a few times, and they are a hit for GF and NGF folks as well.
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sarahceliac



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had never heard of these but am so glad that you brought it to the board! They sound so.. good. I love all the ingriedients so guess I will prob. love the recipe. The kinikinick choc. cake I use is wonderful just by its self. Bet the cream cheese will be delicious.

thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got this from glutenfreeda.com:
Coconut Black Bottom Cupcakes


Difficulty: Easy

Ingredients:

* 1-1/2 cups gf flour
* 1-1/4 cup sugar
* 1/4 cup cocoa powder
* 1 teaspoon baking soda
* 1/2 teaspoon salt
* 1 cup water
* 1/3 cup vegetable oil
* 1 Tablespoon white vinegar
* 1 teaspoon pure vanilla extract
* 8 oz. cream cheese, softened
* 1/3 cup sugar
* 1 egg, lightly beaten
* Pinch of salt
* 1 cup chocolate chips
* 1/2 cup shredded coconut, sweetened

Directions:

Preheat the oven to 350°F. Prepare a standard size muffin tin by lining it with paper liners. Set aside. In a medium bowl, whisk together the gf flour, 1-1/4 cups sugar, cocoa powder, baking soda, and salt. In a seperate bowl, whisk together the water, vegetable oil, vinegar and vanilla extract. Add the wet ingredients to the dry ingredients and stir until incorporated. In another bowl, beat together the cream cheese, 1/3 cup sugar, egg and a pinch of salt. When the mixture is thoroughly combined, stir in the chocolate chips and shredded coconut. Pour the chocolate batter into the muffin tins, filling them about two-thirds full. Place a heaping tablespoon of filling in the center of each cupcake. Bake for 18-20 minutes or until a toothpick inserted into the center comes out with just a few crumbs clinging to it. Let cool completely in the pan.
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KeeKee



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well they are sitting on the table cooling, I'm Wondering if they are suppose to be sunken in the middle.

This is about the 4th muffin/cake I have tried so far nothing I could have hubby try. All were made with the GF maybe I didn't get the flours mixed right or something, I kinda expected the taste to be different but the texture wasn't acceptable at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KeeKee wrote:
Well they are sitting on the table cooling, I'm Wondering if they are suppose to be sunken in the middle.

This is about the 4th muffin/cake I have tried so far nothing I could have hubby try. All were made with the GF maybe I didn't get the flours mixed right or something, I kinda expected the taste to be different but the texture wasn't acceptable at all.


Which recipe did you use? Which blend of flours? Some are grittier than others.

I've found that the toothpick test is unreliable in determining doneness in GF baked goods. I've also found that they need to bake longer than NGF because of the extra liquid.

One does have to get used to the texture of GF baked goods. They're slighlty different than the norm.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the recipe above. The flours was the Bettes Rice flour, Potato Starch and Tapicoa.
Which one causes the 'grit' ? Then grit is exactly why I wouldn't not hand any of this to hubby, he would probably not want to try anything else I did if he bit into sand Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably the rice flour. Was it white rice or brown rice flour? Some brands of brown rice flour can be grittier than others. Arrowhead Mills (I think) makes a finely ground brown rice flour. I use all Bob's Red Mill products. Some say that the BRM brown rice is gritty...it' doesn't bother me.

White rice flour is less gritty, but it doesn't have the nutritinal value of the brown rice flour.

I think the cakes sunk because they weren't baked enough. I bake the h@## out of GF baked goods.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too much liquid can also cause cakes to sink in the center.
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