I'm allergic to hydrochloric acid, trysin, and pepsin

MaryK · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 66

Has anyone ever heard of being allergic to your own digestive enzymes? I'm seeing a new Chiropractor who does allergy testing, and after describing my digestive issues to him, he tested me and said I have lots of allergies, but the first one we needed to work on was my allergies to hydrochloric acid, trysin, and pepsin!! I thought that was really strange. I go back Tuesday. I'm anxious to see what other allergies he has found. Hopefully he'll be able to help me get over some of this!! I'm on some pancreatic support right now. I'm so glad I found this Chiropractor. He does kinesiology and uses a rife maching to treat many things!! He got rid of my 6 yr old's candida, and his wheat and corn allergies. I havn't had the guts to feed him wheat yet Shocked

, but he did stop screaming a couple of days after being treated for the corn. He has Asperger's, and screams a lot Sad

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lorka · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 265

Did he do just a scratch test? Those are only 50% effective, so it's quite possible those weren't 'real' reactions.

MaryK · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 66

No, he does the kinesiology. It's energy testing, and it's quite acurate. Better than scratch tests, or blood tests.
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bud7-10 · Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 185

Is that where you hold a little bottle containing the possible allergen in one hand, and the doc has you hold your other arm straight out, and if you are allergic, he is easily able to push your arm down because you have no strength?
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MaryK · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 66

yes, that's it !! He also has another method where he rubs his hand on an object that is tuned to a certain radio frequency. It finds "pain" in your body. Your body sends a message to your brain when there is pain, and it is a specific frequency. So he can find pain and allergens that way too.
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miscarried twins 3-26-05
Jonah 4-18-06 (4 weeks early) BF

lorka · Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 265

that's really interesting! i've never heard of that before in depth. mind if i ask if you are from canada?

MaryK · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 66

Not from Canada. I live in Colorado Springs. I was lucky to find our Chiropractor. I had been wanting to find someone who did the kinesiology, and was getting ready to start looking, when a friend of my son's recommended this guy!! He's been trained by the best, so he really knows what he is doing. I think they also have a school here that teaches kinesiology, so there are probably several in town. However, the one we are seeing also does acupuncture (with a laser or shock therapy), and also has a rife maching that uses radio waves to treat virus, bacteria, fungus, etc. He's truly an all-in-one Dr. !!! I've given up on medical doctors for the most part. Only for emergencies, and for our "well-baby" check-ups. We go just so that nobody can say we've neglected our children. So many people today think that you have to go to a medical doctor if there is something wrong with you. I used to think that. Now I think that's probably the last place you should go if something is wrong with you!!! My autistic 6 yr old is 90% cured using alternative treatments and diets. And we're just getting started with the Chiropractor.
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DH-Paul (44)
Peter 2-28-00 Asperger's Syndrome GFCF/dye free
Adam 3-29-06 GFCF/dye free/sugar free
miscarried twins 3-26-05
Jonah 4-18-06 (4 weeks early) BF

ostrich · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 4960 Location: Nebraska

MaryK · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 66

I know it sounds pretty strange. However, he's not the only person in the country doing this. You would probably find several in each city if you looked for them (internet or yellow pages.) It just goes back to old world medicine. Natural remedies instead of toxic drugs. I don't expect ANYONE to say "hey, that sounds neat - I'll think I'll try it." It look me 3 years of working with my autistic child to decide this is what will work for us.
........just wanted to add that I am a very religious person, and always thought of this kind of thing as "witch-craft"......I've changed my mind about this, and an added benefit is that our Chiropractor is a Christian as well. ..........just throwing that out there for anyone else who thinks it might be sac-religious.
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Mary (37) GFCF/dye free
DH-Paul (44)
Peter 2-28-00 Asperger's Syndrome GFCF/dye free
Adam 3-29-06 GFCF/dye free/sugar free
miscarried twins 3-26-05
Jonah 4-18-06 (4 weeks early) BF

bud7-10 · Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 185

My doc is an integrative medicine doctor. He's the one that dx'ed me with CD.

Anyway, the first time I went to his office, he had me hold the jars, without telling me what was in each one. I was a bit skeptical until I did an elimination challenge diet...I had definite reactions to the things he said I would. I have a ton of allergies and would like to get this treatment someday. Our heath insurance won't cover it so it will have to wait for now.
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aklap · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 10612 Location: WI, USA

Hi Mary,

I can't say I know a lot about what you are saying. It seems hard to fathom you'd be allergic to your own body...but what do I know Wink

You might check out http://www.thefooddoc.com/ He's a board certified Gastro that understands CD and Gluten Sensitivity. AND he's in CO Springs.
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MaryK · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 66

Hi Al,
Dr. Lewey is my GI doctor. One of the few medical doctors that I like!! Wink

He believes that the genetically modified wheat that we are all eating today isn't good for anyone. I emailed him about my allergies to see if he knew anything, but I don't know if I'll hear back or not. He is also familiar with Dr. Yasko's work. She is the one we are working with in Maine to treat my son's autism. He is one of the few medical doctors I know that doesn't first look to drugs to "cure" everything. He's willing to take a look at research that isn't always considered "acceptable" in the medical community. I gave him a copy of my son's genetics that we got from Dr. Yasko. He thought it was pretty interesting since he's really getting into the genetics aspect of celiac.
He asked me once if I knew how we could get the word out about Celiac. I thought flyers handed out at Wal Mart, Whole Foods, and the schools would be good. I'll have to work on that one of these days. He did set up an interview with the Colorado Springs Business Journal to try to get the word out that way. Here is that article if you are interested:

http://www.csbj.com/story.cfm?id=10179&searchString=lewey

He also has a new blog on his website with some interesting information, just within the last week or so.
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Mary (37) GFCF/dye free
DH-Paul (44)
Peter 2-28-00 Asperger's Syndrome GFCF/dye free
Adam 3-29-06 GFCF/dye free/sugar free
miscarried twins 3-26-05
Jonah 4-18-06 (4 weeks early) BF

Kimberley · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:49 am Post subject:

I've had both these things done for my son and they both paled in comparison to the total elimination diet we did. They were also not as accurate.

For example:

holding the bottles: wheat tested medium - when we know that wheat is BRUTAL for him by his reactions

raisins tested higher that wheat but when ds wanted to give his system a break and get better, he would only eat apples and raisins... and he would get better (one of the things that led us to doing a total elim. diet).

All meat tested medium to high but he was a big meat eater. We removed meat and he did worse... but it back in and his energy level went back up.

The other test: with the machine that show liver trouble, etc. Showed stomach trouble for my son... He had thrown up on the way in to the doctor - so - D'uh... it's pretty obvious he's having stomach trouble.

$400 later the doc still couldn't tell us what was causing the trouble.

We figured it out ourselves by eliminating grains at breakfast. Grains=car-sick
Meat, fruit and veggies = no car-sick

So, am I sorry we spent the money? Well, in a way I feel ripped off because that's a lot of money for nothing.... and then... No, because I would've wondered. Would I do it again? No.
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MaryK · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 66

Our Chiropractor tested Peter for wheat, and he was showing sensitive to it, so he did acupuncture to "fix" the allergy. The next time he asked if I had treid the wheat, and he asked me the next several times. I finally told him I thought that it was not specifically wheat, but gluten. He finally tested Peter for gluten, and he was so EXTREMELY sensitive to gluten, that he could not fix it with acupuncture (he put him on the rife machine), but we still avoid gluten.

So, maybe he should have tested for gluten instead of wheat. I'm sorry you feel you didn't get your money's worth. There are several Chiropractors out there that are not very good, and don't do a good job with the testing. Our Chiropractor was taught by the best, but his weak point is that you have to specifically ask him to test for certain things. Next week we go for a lyme bacteria test. I'm really interested to see what he comes up with. I really feel that our Chiropractor as really helped. However, we have started seeing a new Chiropractor, and she has been great with a few things that the other guy didn't cover. Bottom line is, if you don't want to spend money to get better, than don't bother. If getting better is more important to you than the money, then keep looking for someone (Chiropractor or doctor or naturopath, or DAN doctor, or whoever) who will truly help you. Sometimes it's necessary to get the help of several different people. Everyone has their own specialty, and some are just not good at what they do.

Food allergies/intollerances are tricky. There are so many factors. There is the blood type diet, that suggests that type "O" should eat beef, but type "A" should avoid beef. Then there are the issues of antibiotics and hormones in the meat. There are the issues of parasites and bacteria in the meat if not cooked. There are the issues of the meat realeasing certain toxins if the meat IS cooked. I think I've discovered a very good reason to avoid just about EVERY food out there. I think you just need to find what foods seem to cause the most issues, and decide what issues are most important to work on (digestive, or neurological or behavioral, etc.) They all tie in together, but it's a little like supplements. For example, certain supplments will help cure certain things, but if you have certain bacteria that feeds on that particular supplement, then it's best to avoid it. It depends on weather you want to get rid of the bacteria, or address the other problem that the supplements is going to help with. ............I've done way too much research, and it's getting way too confusing. Shocked

I'm just plugging along the best I can with what I know. The hard part is that everyone is different, and everyone has different issues, and different things work for each person.
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DH-Paul (44)
Peter 2-28-00 Asperger's Syndrome GFCF/dye free
Adam 3-29-06 GFCF/dye free/sugar free
miscarried twins 3-26-05
Jonah 4-18-06 (4 weeks early) BF

Kimberley · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject:

Don't get me wrong. I don't place more value on money than health.

What I'm saying is that a good elimination diet will tell you what you need to know better than any test.

Your chiropractor would've been feeding your child gluten if you hadn't already known what to do. He wasn't thorough enough... in my opinion.

I've been to two of them, and felt the same about both. At the time, it was a real let down because I really just wanted someone to give me an answer. Neither one of them had the appropriate knowledge to deal with celiac disease or gluten sensitivity... I learned later.

This also happened to a friend of mine whose son wasn't gaining weight. She did this machine measuring your 'parts' thing too (actually she was the one who I got my referral from). Well, after my visit, I wasn't impressed because I didn't think this guy was thorough enough either and quit going.

She ended up spending $1000 and giving her son a supplement that DID make him gain weight... but then he gained too fast for his bones and his bones were compromised and they had to start doing other stuff via a conventional osteo practitioner.

I did an elim. diet with my son, his bones grew, he didn't have issues and I didn't blow $1000. My son has gone from needing a doc approx. every 6 weeks for the first 3 years of his life, to being doctor free for 5 years... just doing a ted to isolate his problem foods.

Of course, if a child isn't growing properly, I urge all parents to have the regular conventional testing done to ensure that it's not a heart, lung, blood function issue first. Then, if everything's fine... a ted just makes the most sense and is the most cost effective.

Therefore, I still have many more reservations about the acccuracy/efficacy of these tests... sigh... not much different than conventional testing for celiac that misses so many people... sigh...

More questions than answers... for example: How does a child measure different to wheat than gluten? This obviously happened in both our cases but what the heck.... wheat is the biggest gluten carrier... THAT doesn't make any sense at all...

Oh yeah, sure you can 'cure' my wheat allergy but not my gluten issue. What?

As for the Eat Right For Your Type Diet... a general diet like that cannot apply to everyone. It might be a good starting point for a ted but that's it.

Again, a ted takes away the impersonal nature of most diets... it is effectively a diet that establishes which foods are best for EACH individual person. I would not assume that a diet someone else wrote up would be the one for me... it might be a good starting place... However, someone who has never even met me would not be able to figure out which diet would be exactly right for me... and I wouldn't expect that.
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Kind regards,
KimS
formerly pakisa 100 at BT
01/02/2002 Even Small Amounts of Gluten Cause Relapse in Children With Celiac Disease (Docguide.com) 12/20/2002 The symptomatic and histologic response to a gf diet with borderline enteropathy (Docguide.com)