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Fifi



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject: Raw cookie dough Reply with quote

I love raw cookie dough more than I like the finished cookies. I saw an ad for a Hagen dasz Ice cream that looked like it was all chocolate chip cookie dough. So I got to thinking that I had a package of GF chocolate chip cookie mix at home and since it was too hot to bake and I really didn't want them baked I decided to eat some of it raw. I don't know if anyone has ever tried to do this before, but I was kind of disappointed. I know there are different flours in there, but something tasted kind of metally. Then after a while I got the big "D" I know it wasn't cc or anything like that. I just wondered if the raw eggs had anything to do with it??? The experience ruined raw cookies for me. I was going to try raw brownies next, now I'm not so sure!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the cookie dough have bean flour in it? That will give you a metallic taste for sure. Raw bean flours taste just nasty, and have GI effects too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was probably it. I will check. It was Bobs Red mill.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just looked online ther is fava bean flour and garbanzo bean flour. Next time may I will try a scratch recipe. Thanks for the info!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. It was the bean flour.

http://www.bobsredmill.com/catalog/index.php?action=showdetails&product_ID=564
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Ingredients: brown sugar, evaporated cane juice, garbanzo bean flour, potato starch, semi-sweet chocolate chips (sugar, unsweetened chocolate, cocoa butter, soy lecithin, vanilla), tapioca starch, whole grain white sorghum flour, fructose, fava bean flour, xanthan gum, baking soda, sea salt, natural vanilla powder.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not only is raw bean flour nasty to taste, I think I remember reading that it's not good to eat raw bean flour. I think it's a toxicity thing. Once it's cooked it fine, but raw is a no-no.

This needs to be verified - treat this as a warning - but don't take my word here as gospel right now.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I found out the hard way, (or should I say the runny way)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aklap wrote:
Not only is raw bean flour nasty to taste, I think I remember reading that it's not good to eat raw bean flour. I think it's a toxicity thing. Once it's cooked it fine, but raw is a no-no.

This needs to be verified - treat this as a warning - but don't take my word here as gospel right now.


Here's what the mighty and powerful WIKI says:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bean
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Some kinds of raw beans and especially red and kidney beans, contain a harmful toxin (the lectin Phytohaemagglutinin) that must be destroyed by cooking. A recommended method is to boil the beans for at least ten minutes; undercooked beans may be more toxic than raw beans.[1] Cooking beans in a slow cooker, because of the lower temperatures often used, may not destroy toxins even though the beans do not smell or taste 'bad'[2] (though this should not be a problem if the food reaches boiling and stays there for some time).


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Phytohaemagglutinin (PHA, or phytohemagglutinin) is a lectin found in plants, especially beans. PHA actually consists of two closely related proteins, called Leucoagglutinin (PHA-L) and PHA-E. The letters E and L point to the fact that these proteins agglutinate Erythrocytes and Leukocytes, respectively. It is found in the highest concentrations in uncooked red kidney beans and white kidney beans (also known as cannellini),[1] and it is also found in lower quantities in many other types of green beans and other common beans (Phaseolus vulgaris), as well as broad beans (Vicia faba) such as fava beans.[2] It has a number of physiological effects and is used in medical research. In high doses it is a toxin.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How toxic is it???? Should I call my doctor or will it pass??? I really don't need any other mysterious things happening to me. I hope they can't cause seizures? holy crap!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may never eat again!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The amount you ate given that it tastes gross is probably very little. I think we've all had a taste of raw bean flour once or twice and we're OK. When it gets in higher doses it could cause problems, but you should be fine. Not to worry.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fifi- Just a quick "add-on" here. If you ever do decide to try raw cookie dough again with other flours, you should never use raw egg. You could end up with a nasty case of salmonella.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most stores carry pasteurized eggs, either in the shell (by the dozen) or in cartons (like Egg Beaters).
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a great recipie with no egg in it, I just haven't tried it with gluten free flour as yet.. thr oly thing isI'm not sure wat the cookies taste like.. it never seems to make it past douh stage at my house.

On another note I broube some aunt kath's gluten free cookie dough and Dean't won't let me eat it raw, I have to cook it for him.. thought i did sneak a taste and it was good. it does not contain any bean flour either.

Just a Q, is it normal for gluten free baking to taste like cocnut orit it just me?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never noticed a coconut flavor in GF baking. Any chance whatever mix or flour blend you're using has coconut flour in it?
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