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Annette



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Question about toast, dishes and celiac Reply with quote

Hoping someone can help me with this. Smile

Every member in our household has celiac except for one person, and she still eats wheat/gluten containing products. Though we keep everything separate, one issue we are confused about is dishwashing and toast.

When wheat bread is toasted, the smell is really strong and permeates the house. Am I being exposed to gluten when I breathe this?

Also, would we need to use different scrubs for washing dishes? We have no dishwasher, so dishes are done by hand and scrub.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We only have one gluten free family member, but we made the house GF (he's two...it's just easier that way). In the house, everything must be gluten free. Gluten eaters may eat anything they want outside the house, as long as it all STAYS outside the house.

If you don't have a dishwasher, definitely use a separate sponge/washrag/scrubbie stuff. If not, you'll probably recontaminate your GF dishes every time you wash them.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Can't go totally household gluten-free :( Reply with quote

The non-celiac in our household is my grandma. She's 80 and gets very angry if she doesn't have her oatmeal, crackers and toast, and she hates the gluten-free stuff with a passion, so going gluten free in the household is not an option.

The frustrating thing is, she has osteoporosis that is not responding to medications, and a lot of stomach pain and constipation, and I've asked her to stop eating gluten for just one month to see if she feels better because it could be the gluten (even though her celiac blood test came back negative) but she refuses... Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about everyone else but I have celiac and was working in a business that bakes bread and when it would bake I would would fall ill. As for hust a toaster in a house not sure my exposure was in large mass.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We used to have a 100% GF household but with tough economic times it was cheaper for the two gluten eaters to eat cheaper gluten. Wink So for the past year and a half we've had a shared kitchen. We use two different sponges and wash the GF dishes first. We also renew our sponges frequently to avoid CC, about every two weeks. We have a dedicated cutting board for gluten (it's the red one Twisted Evil) and the toaster is now for gluten (my poor visiting SIL put her toast in there because she didn't know it was my GF toaster - oh well!)

Not sure about the smell of toast. (I still love that smell)

I would definitely discourage any wheat flour from being used in your kitchen (even with our shared household that is a BANNED substance - it can stay air-born for 72 hours and if breathed in enough can cause a reaction)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Annette,

Welcome to the board. Gosh, it's sounds like this is quite the situation. Difficult all the way around.

Is she willing to clean up after her eatings?

If it helps, here's what we do - Cross Contamination in the Home - How to navigate a Mixed House
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good article. luckily I am single and live in a GF home and when my kids are over they eat GF with no complaints and they are 6 & 11. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mom is 84 and she transitioned to gluten free very well. Being that she grew up in a rural southern household, they never ate "bakery bread" just biscuits. And given how my grandmother made biscuits, gluten free products are a lot better! Grandma's biscuits were kind of like little concrete hocky pucks...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you grandmother is eating gluten toast, please get another toaster for your GF breads.

This is so difficult when they are older. My mother is 78 and she refuses to eat our food because it isn't 'real'. I do not understand that one. She has eaten my GF foods before and said she enjoyed it. She really liked my waffles.

When she came to visit after my sister's death in April, she was so fragile that I allowed her to have gluten in her room. Well, that was a disaster. She got gluten all over the downstairs.

She did not wash her hands after eating and she ate cookies in the living room, so therefore anything she touched had wheat on it. My family reacts topically and with stomach issues. My grandson had major meltdowns and major outbreak of rashes.

My husband can't go in the grocery store near the bakery section. He gets sick from the smell. My youngest dd, has to purchase gluten sandwich bread for her husband, but going down the bread aisle takes her breath away.

Will your grandmother compromise on biscuits, pancakes or waffles? It is baby steps, but those would be easy to make and taste really good.

I have over in the bread section a Mock Angel biscuit that is a yeast bread and it is really easy and tastes good. You can make it in the muffin tin to sub as those brown and serve rolls from the bakery that have the fan top.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Question about toast, dishes and celiac Reply with quote

Annette wrote:

When wheat bread is toasted, the smell is really strong and permeates the house. Am I being exposed to gluten when I breathe this?


I think it depends on how sensitive you are to gluten. If I go down the baking aisle or the baked goods area in the grocery store, I would start coughing and my throat gets very irritated to breathe. I do have my inhaler on me at all times.

Does your grandma hate gluten-free baked goods because she knows they're gluten-free and not necessarily because she hates the taste? I know with my older sister, she used to tell me she can't eat gluten free pasta at all because it's going to be gross tasting. Well one time she tried my pasta and enjoyed it. Even my younger sister who had this strange idea as well that gluten free pizza would taste bad, now only eats gluten-free pizza even though she's not celiac.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annette wrote:
And there is also really no replacement for oatmeal for someone who wants to eat oatmeal. Is oatmeal gluten-free? I have read that is it or it isn't, or that it is but it's contaminated with gluten? Just confusing for me. I cook her oatmeal and wash the pot and I'm not sure if I should keep everything separate or not?

All mainstream oats are considered to be contaminated with gluten. There are GF oats available from a couple of companies. Bob's Red Mill makes one brand. I think the other brand is called Cream Hill Estates or something like that.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

celiacmaine-iac wrote:
Annette wrote:
And there is also really no replacement for oatmeal for someone who wants to eat oatmeal. Is oatmeal gluten-free? I have read that is it or it isn't, or that it is but it's contaminated with gluten? Just confusing for me. I cook her oatmeal and wash the pot and I'm not sure if I should keep everything separate or not?

All mainstream oats are considered to be contaminated with gluten. There are GF oats available from a couple of companies. Bob's Red Mill makes one brand. I think the other brand is called Cream Hill Estates or something like that.
Thanks! Will be looking into purchasing Gluten-Free oats, then. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glutenfreeda makes instant gluten free oats, you can get them on Amazon. They are flavored and very good and so much easier to use than the kind you have to cook.
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